• axx@slrpnk.net
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    Considering how bad the influence of masculinism has become, I find it more and more discomforting to see this image used to mean good, right and proper. This feeds into the horrible standards they push and promote.

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      I’ve understood it to mean something more like “did the thing that others said I couldn’t/shouldn’t” rather than right or proper. Not just doing the right things, but flexing on the haters who think you couldn’t.

      I’m kinda with you though, it makes me uncomfortable every time

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      Pretty sure I’ve actually seen this image used against the manosphere people more than anything, with the Andrew Tate types being depicted as Soyjaks.

      The masculine thing is to treat women with respect and equality, rather than attempting to lord over them and pretend we (men) are somehow better or importanter. The latter is a sign of being insecure, not masculine.

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        Soyjaks

        Which is another harmful stereotype around the manly meat-eater vs. weak ‘soyboy’ tropes (which also has a history in anti-Asian racism)

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          Is this a bit where you play a caricature of a 2010 Tumblr user? Soyjak is the name of the meme character.

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            Which is the soyboy trope:

            Soyjaks are a group of internet memes that are black and white drawings depicting the soy boy stereotype,

            Wikipedia

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              And like the chad guy, we’re using it to make fun of people who use it in earnest. We’re not calling people soyboys and do not need to avoid the word “soyjak”

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          Technically yes, but the irony is that soyjak is usually used to depict exactly the sort of people who’d perpertrate the soyboy trope, rather than people who’d fit the trope.

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        How is that relevant to what i’m saying?

        Also, weird to assume i’m on Lemmy but wouldn’t know what a meme is.