Lemmy.world reportedly bans people for being anti-Zionist. At the same time, numerous human rights organizations have documented that Zionist policies and actions amount to crimes against humanity (e.g., forced displacement, collective punishment, apartheid).
If banning opposition to crimes against humanity is itself anti-humanity, doesn’t that make lemmy.world complicit? How do you reconcile defending a platform that silences critics while atrocities continue?


A lot of Lemmy.world users sign up because they believe it to be a “neutral” instance, and just want a drop-in FOSS reddit replacement. The truth is that Lemmy.world is highly partisan, particularly of the establishment DNC variety. Liberal zionism, anti-communism, and more are the mainstays of Lemmy.world admins and moderators, but many users don’t realize it until much later. Further, Lemmy.world defederates and censors communist and other leftist instances, creating a walled garden where their users cannot even see opposition.
It’s really the lack of self awareness that makes it so galling. They genuinely think they’re the neutral default and don’t understand that the ideology they subscribe to has no privileged place.
Yep! Been reading Gramsci lately, and he puts into words this phenomenon really well:
Gramsci puts it perfectly, the smaller the group you are in and the less exposure you have to the broader world the smaller your ideas must necessarily be.
Yep, that’s why language learning is such a useful skill!
On a related note, I thought Dennett makes a really good argument in Consciousness Explained that our minds are basically made of memes in a very literal sense. The wiring in our brains is the substrate, but the memes that get seeded there are what really defines us more than anything.
Interesting, I’ll have to give that a look!
Which is particularly ironic when they go HURR DURR .ml HURR DURR TANKIE AUTHORITARIAN HURR DURR OPPOSING OPINIONS NOT ALLOWED.
Other than the tankie part what do you do differently?
Liberal spaces live and die on free speech theatre. They always have to pretend they’re protecting free speech and allowing open debate. Being perceived as “authoritarian” is their kryptonite, because authoritarianism is the one thing they claim to oppose above all else.
Communist spaces will unapologetically hit you with the ban hammer for defending imperialism, fascism, capitalism, bigotry, etc. and I respect that.
It’s the general problem of defining yourself as being against something and not actually being for anything.
on .ml the bans tend do also tend to be temp ones, unless someone’s seriously harassing. so like people will be complaining about the 1984 censorship regime here but then if you look at their modlog more often than not they got a slap on the wrist for insulting people or doing the laziest anticommunism ever put into text. often both.
And the really angry ones tend to be banned for some flavor of bigotry.
Yep, agreed!
I wonder what happens on .ml when you voice some alternative opinions… 🤔
It’s depend of the “alternative opinion”. Factually wrong get downvote and length response, different opinion just length response, regurgitate propaganda get comment removed, “I’m right because I’m white” is ban.
This is just the nazi “I was banned just for having a differing opinion!”
Like yeah man, don’t support genocide, don’t carry water for genocidaires, most people find it very easy, but the ones who find it hard seemingly can’t stop whining about it.
Fuck those guys. I’m new here and super glad I didn’t blindly choose them.
So, what you’re saying is… It is a drop-in FOSS reddit replacement.
Yes, haha, but in ways more similar than being FOSS would imply. .world isn’t neutral.
As I said when they posted this same thing in hexbear it is very funny and ironic that they are on a piefed instance which was designed to be exactly what .world has become with extra guardrails to ensure it is that.
Yep, that’s a whole other can of woms, haha.
Kinda the same can of worms if you really think about it. The nature of these platforms is that if they don’t have communists in moderation they will inevitably all turn into Nazi bars because liberals can’t even fight fascism in places they control because of their obsession with civility and “free marketplace of ideas” nonsense.
Yep, well-said! That’s why liberalism cannot fight fascism, and instead enables it.