your original post was correct, he does nothing locally, he’s not funding any mutual aid in Los Angeles, the amazon labor union was on the other side of the country while people die on the streets a few blocks from his home
yeah I think he’s raised like millions for other things too. he is certainly doing much more than most people with his status and if he didn’t exist it’s not like there would be anyone filling his place in a more radical way, just a power/audience vacuum for the right to fill
That’s not how media vacuums work. People don’t just randomly switch ideologies because a streamer doesn’t exist. Someone else would simply fill the market gap and consumption demand. That’s why it is so difficult to change people’s views online, it has absolutely nothing to do with their actual material conditions, and it is those material conditions that cause them to seek out certain kinds of media.
If there isn’t a left leaning lib like Hasan, there will be the amount of people who watch him looking for something else to watch, and 9/10 other options are significantly to the right of Hasan. If he didn’t exist there is no reason to assume some other person with the same politics as him would be attracting that audience, it makes more sense that they would be scattered about to whoever exists now, and landing on someone further to the right. If you can explain how this wouldn’t be the case id consider it but just saying it isn’t how it works isn’t convincing
Or they would simply stop consuming on that platform or find an alternative source, or someone else would fill the market gap. This shit is clearly profitable and prevelant. It’s not like Chapo ever stopped making money, even when Bernie stopped being a thing.
Someone would want to make money in that gap.
Edit: Unless you presuppose that watching streamers is literally an addiction, where addicts will go to less that premium sources to consume, which isn’t a terrible model, but if that is the model for online ideological discourse we are already well and truly fucked.
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I mean, an individual funding a union on par with entire labor orgs is pretty impressive and practically unheard of
Ok respect where it’s due that’s awesome
your original post was correct, he does nothing locally, he’s not funding any mutual aid in Los Angeles, the amazon labor union was on the other side of the country while people die on the streets a few blocks from his home
Yes and locally he and a lot of other pseudo progressives are backing a zionist
yeah I think he’s raised like millions for other things too. he is certainly doing much more than most people with his status and if he didn’t exist it’s not like there would be anyone filling his place in a more radical way, just a power/audience vacuum for the right to fill
That’s not how media vacuums work. People don’t just randomly switch ideologies because a streamer doesn’t exist. Someone else would simply fill the market gap and consumption demand. That’s why it is so difficult to change people’s views online, it has absolutely nothing to do with their actual material conditions, and it is those material conditions that cause them to seek out certain kinds of media.
If there isn’t a left leaning lib like Hasan, there will be the amount of people who watch him looking for something else to watch, and 9/10 other options are significantly to the right of Hasan. If he didn’t exist there is no reason to assume some other person with the same politics as him would be attracting that audience, it makes more sense that they would be scattered about to whoever exists now, and landing on someone further to the right. If you can explain how this wouldn’t be the case id consider it but just saying it isn’t how it works isn’t convincing
Or they would simply stop consuming on that platform or find an alternative source, or someone else would fill the market gap. This shit is clearly profitable and prevelant. It’s not like Chapo ever stopped making money, even when Bernie stopped being a thing.
Someone would want to make money in that gap.
Edit: Unless you presuppose that watching streamers is literally an addiction, where addicts will go to less that premium sources to consume, which isn’t a terrible model, but if that is the model for online ideological discourse we are already well and truly fucked.