when were hasan or the chapos ever vanguardist revolutionaries? they didn’t switch it up; that was never their politics. this entire line of thinking smacks of envy.
and to their (ultra-inclined) credit, will and felix, on a recent ep, essentially disowned zohran, and called on him to use extra-legal means to impede or disperse zionist counterprotesters.
what more could possibly be asked for?
I’m not saying they were or have to be ‘vanguardist revolutionaries’ lol. As I said in my original comment - there is just a certain “why are you even supporting them then??” that cannot be easily squared away when you’re listening to Felix Biederman say something along the lines of “Chapo’s endorsements do not even have a realistic effect on Maine elections so you guys shouldn’t be upset at us for supporting Graham Platner even if you disagree with us”. And sure, the Chapos have never called themselves communists or anything - but Hasan actively does call himself a socialist???
Good for Chapo for ‘disowning Zohran’ whatever the fuck that means; weird comparison to make in general though given Zohran doesn’t have or ever had a nazi tattoo, wasn’t stationed in Abu Ghraib, wasn’t a mercenary, and hasn’t made ‘proud veteran’ a central board in his campaign’s platform. Zohran’s also just a fucking mayor. He’s not sitting in Congress actively letting the wheels of the US government continue to flatten various other countries, marginalized people’s rights, etc.
Should I wait another year or so for them to walk back their Graham Platner episode in which Will basically says “yeah he’s a mercenary and that’s a blight on his soul…but I’d still personally vote for him”?
It should only take like 2-3 key Senate votes on like war powers resolutions or something being shut down by a 48-52 vote for them to start tweeting “Graham Platner is scum of the earth” right? lol
Let it be known that I’m not a ‘electoralism is stupid hahaha you should be out giving unhoused people copies of Capital Vol I’ leftist. I have defended politicians before (speaking of Zohran), I vote pretty regularly because I understand it does have importance and only takes literally 5-30 minutes out of my day once every 2-4 years. But there is a difference between going “Yeah chat I’m voting for Kamala Harris because at the end of the day, I just don’t want Trump to win, and I think you should too” as an American ‘left of center’ or even socialist streamer & going “Yeah I support this senate candidate who lives on the opposite end of the country who only recently got rid of his nazi tattoo after claiming he didn’t know what it was despite serving for 5+ years, was there when the US army was torturing hundreds of people in a prison in Abu Ghraib, and consistently says he’s proud of his service & time being a mercenary”.
Anyways you’ve been up and down this thread defending Hasan so I assume you are just reacting out of affection. Which is fine, you’re allowed to like Hasan and think he does good - I think he does too for the most part; but he & the Chapos are still fucking stupid for this and the fact that your only argument in defense of them is “when did they ever say they were vanguardist revolutionaries” is funny
The fact of the matter is that they should have seen this shit coming from a mile away.
Or, more realistically, held their endorsement of them UNTIL it has been proven that they will put their money where their mouth is on these kinds of issues.
It takes two seconds to say, “Hey, I like the cut of his jib, but we have been burned too many times in the past for us to give a ringing endorsement. In particular, their unwillingness to distance themselves from the Democrats speaks to a fundamental misunderstanding of the nature of the American electoral system.”
You know, be a fucking materialist for once? Actually wait to see how things play out while biding your time and organizing, as opposed to speaking shit and being fucking wrong?
But the fact of the matter is their job is to fill airtime and be funny. Not be correct. And so they will continue to do so.
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when were hasan or the chapos ever vanguardist revolutionaries? they didn’t switch it up; that was never their politics. this entire line of thinking smacks of envy.
and to their (ultra-inclined) credit, will and felix, on a recent ep, essentially disowned zohran, and called on him to use extra-legal means to impede or disperse zionist counterprotesters. what more could possibly be asked for?
I’m not saying they were or have to be ‘vanguardist revolutionaries’ lol. As I said in my original comment - there is just a certain “why are you even supporting them then??” that cannot be easily squared away when you’re listening to Felix Biederman say something along the lines of “Chapo’s endorsements do not even have a realistic effect on Maine elections so you guys shouldn’t be upset at us for supporting Graham Platner even if you disagree with us”. And sure, the Chapos have never called themselves communists or anything - but Hasan actively does call himself a socialist???
Good for Chapo for ‘disowning Zohran’ whatever the fuck that means; weird comparison to make in general though given Zohran doesn’t have or ever had a nazi tattoo, wasn’t stationed in Abu Ghraib, wasn’t a mercenary, and hasn’t made ‘proud veteran’ a central board in his campaign’s platform. Zohran’s also just a fucking mayor. He’s not sitting in Congress actively letting the wheels of the US government continue to flatten various other countries, marginalized people’s rights, etc.
Should I wait another year or so for them to walk back their Graham Platner episode in which Will basically says “yeah he’s a mercenary and that’s a blight on his soul…but I’d still personally vote for him”?
It should only take like 2-3 key Senate votes on like war powers resolutions or something being shut down by a 48-52 vote for them to start tweeting “Graham Platner is scum of the earth” right? lol
Let it be known that I’m not a ‘electoralism is stupid hahaha you should be out giving unhoused people copies of Capital Vol I’ leftist. I have defended politicians before (speaking of Zohran), I vote pretty regularly because I understand it does have importance and only takes literally 5-30 minutes out of my day once every 2-4 years. But there is a difference between going “Yeah chat I’m voting for Kamala Harris because at the end of the day, I just don’t want Trump to win, and I think you should too” as an American ‘left of center’ or even socialist streamer & going “Yeah I support this senate candidate who lives on the opposite end of the country who only recently got rid of his nazi tattoo after claiming he didn’t know what it was despite serving for 5+ years, was there when the US army was torturing hundreds of people in a prison in Abu Ghraib, and consistently says he’s proud of his service & time being a mercenary”.
Anyways you’ve been up and down this thread defending Hasan so I assume you are just reacting out of affection. Which is fine, you’re allowed to like Hasan and think he does good - I think he does too for the most part; but he & the Chapos are still fucking stupid for this and the fact that your only argument in defense of them is “when did they ever say they were vanguardist revolutionaries” is funny
The fact of the matter is that they should have seen this shit coming from a mile away.
Or, more realistically, held their endorsement of them UNTIL it has been proven that they will put their money where their mouth is on these kinds of issues.
It takes two seconds to say, “Hey, I like the cut of his jib, but we have been burned too many times in the past for us to give a ringing endorsement. In particular, their unwillingness to distance themselves from the Democrats speaks to a fundamental misunderstanding of the nature of the American electoral system.”
You know, be a fucking materialist for once? Actually wait to see how things play out while biding your time and organizing, as opposed to speaking shit and being fucking wrong?
But the fact of the matter is their job is to fill airtime and be funny. Not be correct. And so they will continue to do so.