• VitoRobles@lemmy.today
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    16 hours ago

    I lived in different countries. Many are friendly with actual neighborly caring folks. Like leave your car unlocked safe. Like if you lost your phone outside, someone will kindly put it somewhere safe. Countries with good safety nets and a government that wants to help people.

    Here in America, I’m not afraid of the pickpockets or petty theft. The biggest threats to my family’s life are by police officers or ICE, all because of the color of their skin.

    I’ve been to protests where everyone was peaceful and it was violently dissolved by police. Where I’ve been to protests which had hired security guards packing guns protecting protesters, and the cops were on their best behavior.

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      14 hours ago

      Where I’ve been to protests which had hired security guards packing guns protecting protesters

      hwat

      i think you just discombobulated my brain

      What is this concept? Who does this? Where?

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          9 hours ago

          Not the best example. Right-wing gun nuts are cop-adjacent if not cops themselves. Let’s see how an amed BLM or antifa or anti-ICE rally goes.

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            Highly dependent on what state you’re in. Myself and others have legally carried at rallies, protests, and BLM. Cops don’t like armed minorities and leftists, but presently they’re still obliged to tolerate them if you do so well informed of your rights and within the confines of the law (like not being able to enter certain buildings, and obviously not using them to threaten someone).

            This is why community planning is important. You can’t control who all is going to show up to rep for the cause, and you can’t predict who’s going to show up armed. You can encourage attendance to pre-event planning, figure out who will be there and with what, then coordinate their involvement to lessen the likelihood of escalation without discounting that guns are a psychological show of threat of force and a worst case scenario defense, as well as make sure they’re aware of their rights, the law, and what to do if a cop decides to overstep their authority and harass. You teach deescalation for when the counter-protesters try and spark a confrontation. You plan for if and when supporters you don’t know arrive armed, how to approach, how to figure out if they’re well intentioned, allies but extremists, or an agent provocateur.

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            9 hours ago

            The cops do not want an armed populous, and those 20k people who were armed during that protest where not cops.

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      12 hours ago

      Here in America, I’m not afraid of the pickpockets or petty theft. The biggest threats to my family’s life are by police officers or ICE, all because of the color of their skin.

      Feels like that should have been bold, so here you go:

      Here in America, I’m not afraid of the pickpockets or petty theft. The biggest threats to my family’s life are by police officers or ICE, all because of the color of their skin.