Probably just data mining

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    Sharing your opinions of how others chose to dress or act is weird unless you are doing it to influence others. Trying to influence people by belittling them is rude.

    You could be saying it about how someone dresses, or dances, or what bike they chose to ride.

    It is unfortunate that men belittling women about their makeup is so pervasive in our culture that after at least three generations of people highlighting how hurtful it is, people still think their right to state their opinion of random people is more important than people’s right to go through their day without being accosted.

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      Just to point out, women also belittle other women for their make up choices. And even do so more frequently than men. By a lot.

      Its one of the single most common results any time research looks into the topic. Women almost exclusively attack other women for their looks at rates higher than men in every culture iv ever seen research on the topic in.

      This is generally true of any hobby or activity that’s gendered preferenced. Same sex hate in hobbies, appearance and other facteds of life is always an order of magnitude more common than cross sex hate.

      So while you not wrong that it’s a problem when men do it. Its a problem when anyone does it full stop. But your also being a raging fucking ignorant misandrist right now on top of it.

      Stop it. If your going to bitch about the endless soical problems humanity has. At least do so with out also being part of the problem please.

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        What do any of those things have to do with the conversation. They didnt understand why men sharing an opinion about women’s makeup was a problem. I explained my view of it.

        Life is unfair and people can be mean isn’t a justification its just whataboutism cope. Rather than actually letting people consider that maybe their behavior has hurt people you are helping them justify it because people maybe somewhere other people were mean to some other person probably.

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      Genuine question. How thinking that your “default” face looks much cuter than covering it with some products is belittling?

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        The same way someone saying that you would look better without glasses, or would look better with short hair, or would look better if you worked out more is all belittling.

        You are trivializing the choices or non choices a person made. You are implying that the way a person looks is in some way wrong or could be better, that they are less than.

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          I think it is more like wearing colorful lenses and then somebody tells you your eye color is cute why you prefer wearing lenses. But I kinda get it. Though I still think it is fine to complement no makeup. If I cut my hair and get complements I wont get upset

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      How common is it that random people just tell women on face these things? Asking out of genuine curiosity

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        It’s usually not complete strangers, but friends and partners: “you look better with less makeup”, “why are you wearing that?”, “see you look good without makeup!”, “are you OK, you look sick?”, “what’s wrong, are you sad?”

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        You really aren’t getting it eh? People are literally spelling it out for you and you’re still completely dodging the point.

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          I just don’t agree with it. People experience others and have every right to share how they experience the world around them, even if that hurts someone’s feelings. No one has a right to never hear an opinion that makes them feel bad. You’re not children, you’re adults.

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        My experience is that you would come off as a lot more approachable online if you used less words. You might think that using all those words covers up your flaws but I think you could use a lot less words and be your authentic self and people would like being around you more.