What if you woke up tomorrow and completely lost access to your bank account, credit cards, PayPal, and Venmo, all because of something you posted online?

  • Chozo@fedia.io
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    43 minutes ago

    Visa is already censoring the world’s porn. As if we needed more reason to hate them.

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    53 minutes ago

    I know this is off topic but the cc companies are going crazy from a state law that passed saying how oh it will be so bad because they just won’t be able to handle it at all and will have to pull out or something. eff em.

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    4 hours ago

    For the USA and the rest of the world, Brazil has its own payment system as far as I know, and Europe is making one already, so jokes on you. Correct me if I’m wrong.

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    4 hours ago

    This is why I liked the idea of Bitcoin in the beginning. (Before it became what it is now).

    I still like Monero. It would make shit like this impossible to touch by authoritarian idiots.

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    9 hours ago

    Class action lawsuit. Their terms and conditions when I opened my accounts did not mention this and further, updating those terms and conditions and then closing my accounts is not justifiable. Since I’m likely not the only one they will do this to, it sounds to me like they need to learn a lesson.

    My online campaign to point out every time one of their executives has said anything sus would be legendary.

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      7 hours ago

      If things were shut down to prevent access to anything, I don’t think legal action is possible, or even the path to take. Probably why it would never be done that quickly or drastically. The art of oppression is knowing the limit of what people will put up with and not crossing the line, but moving the line slowly. Go too fast, the commons get upset and find their torches.

  • leds@feddit.dk
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    7 hours ago

    What if you woke up tomorrow…

    Yes if you “woke” up too much you will be censured

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    10 hours ago

    Pretty sure having a bank account is like an EU right, so banks can’t just close your account willy-nilly over some online post.

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      7 hours ago

      Yes, but VISA would hold the keys to the infrastructure that let’s you use it in in a modern world.

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      9 hours ago

      Not the banks, but the countries. The EU is getting the EU Wallet, and it must be linked to at least one bank account. This will allow other EU countries to enforce penalties and freeze accounts, seize funds, or whatever. Cool, right? 🤮

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      9 hours ago

      Most likely it is an EU right, but violations would require a lot of effort to straighten, so I wouldn’t be surrised if they do sometimes close accounts willy-nilly

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    10 hours ago

    Without having watched the video, but having an idea of what it’s about given seeing a few places and creators I follow being sanctioned because the payment processors getting butthurt, I think it’s worth mentioning crypto and direct competitors to the Visa and Mastercard mono(duo?)poly.

    On crypto, if issue is that it burns too much energy, afaik generally new technologies are like that, improvements to consumption happening over time.

    And about direct competitors, Russia made one from what I read, Brazil has Elo, and I think the EU was introducing their own recently. All 3 countries/country-like territories with their own problems, but I think it’s a worth idea to copy and improve upon.

    Also fomenting use of physical cash is a good idea too, me thinks.

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      9 hours ago

      I think you’re confusing Elo (just a local company) with Pix, a government created interbank payment system. And from what I know of Pix, yes, we should all definitely copy that.

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        2 hours ago

        Elo the “bandeira” (forgot the name), similar to Visa and Mastercard. But about Pix, now that you mention it, I think PayPal does too? Although not in some countries.

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          Pix has no taxing whatsoever in direct transactions. The only reason people still use cards is due to habit.

          Banks also offer parceling payment, but each one does that on it’s own way afaik. I never used it. Not leaving payments for the future is a load of my mind tbh.

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    11 hours ago

    That’s why we Germans love cash. By the way, all it takes is for the government to face a crisis… Just look at China and its real estate crisis. Many people don’t use cash anymore, and they ran into problems when they couldn’t make digital payments or withdraw money, etc.