Geopolitical scientist Gilles Gressani, co-founder of the magazine Le Grand Continent**, poses this** “paradox” in the latest book of his journal devoted to the enemies of Europe, while China represents “half of what matters in geopolitics and economics”.
Small moment of floating on the set of LCI, on May 28, during David Pujadas’ daily show." I ask you the question around this table: who can mention the name of three living Chinese today?", says the presenter to his guests, journalists Ruth Elkrief (LCI), Jean Quatremer (Libération), Pascal Perri (TF1/LCI) and Thierry Fabre (Challenges). Embarrassed silence. We are thinking. We rack our brains. “There is Xi Jinping, the president,” begins one of them. That will be all. To discover
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“There is a problem when cultured people, who are interested in international business, who read the press, have difficulty imagining the existence of three Chinese figures,” says Gilles Gressani, director of the magazine Le Grand Continent. It is he who, in the introduction of the latest book published by his magazine, L’Ennemi qui nous désigne (Gallimard, 2026), poses this “paradox”: China weighs “half of what counts in geopolitics and economics”, but no one is able to sing three names of living Chinese. “We continue to totally ignore what is happening” “It says something fundamental,” adds the essayist. “We live with mental representations that are those of the 20th century and the beginning of the 21st century. We still live in 2000, when in reality we are much closer to 2050.” The book, which brings together several texts by “renowned sinologists and key doctrinaries of Xi Jinping”, under the direction of the Italian-Swiss writer and political scientist Giuliano da Empoli, offers precisely an “exclusive file” on the Middle Kingdom. “If we feel such a vertigo in the face of the ongoing upheavals, it is perhaps because we still refuse to integrate a massive dimension of the contemporary: China,” plants the presentation of the volume.
Gilles Gressani invites you to look at the “impressive” figures: between 2018 and 2019 alone, China produced more cement than the United States throughout the 20th century, he says. In addition, “more than half of AI research is done in China”, and renewable energy installations are “vertiginous”. “However, we continue to completely ignore what is happening,” he notes.
Amanda Yee from Radio Free Amanda, Li Jingjing, Tings Chak, at least that I know as three living Chinese but that could be in doubt.
The guy who does the hilarious trump impersonation in Chongqing.
Without looking I could come up with journalist Li Jingjing capitalist Jack Ma apart from Xi obviously. I knew about Ai Weiwei but does he count since he’s mostly known for opposing China and living in the west?
Edit : should’ve known Liu Cixin, author of the Three Body Problem
In the obvious ones we also have Jacky Chan and Jet Li. Like everyone knows Jacky Chan.
Cixin Liu, Eileen Giu, and ig Xi Jinping is all I can think of at short notice ngl. Also John Woo
Edit: i even got the first name wrong, it’s Liu Cixin smh
Start with Mao and when they say he’s dead just look shocked and start sobbing uncontrollably.
Hate to say it but hexbear is not great at proving this guy wrong when i see a lot of “Xi Jinping, Jackie Chan” in the comments
we can all benefit from watching more Chinese news (CGTN is mostly in English and you can find many other channels with subtitles) and more Chinese pop culture (many subtitled TV shows on youtube, and many recent movies on streaming sites. a lot of music on youtube and other services)
maybe I’ll make an effort thread about it with links and descriptions. but it’s equally likely i’ll forget about it ten minutes from now

EDIT: YAY I completed a task by focusing my brain on one thing
Can naming friends count? 😂
I mean I probably would have failed this test if you hit me with it live on the air but I’m also not pretending to be a China expert.
Quick! Name 3 people who aren’t Jackie Chan
Eilen Gu the skateboarder who made chuds seethe, Weili Zhang former UFC champ, and Shi Yuqi no1 ranked men badminton player, and I dont even watch sportsball
Hunter Biden
Queen Latifah
George RR Martin
You didn’t specify ethnicity
Speed Round
Xi Jingping, Chen Weihua, and Donnie Yen.
Without looking at the thread:
Politics:
- Xi Jinping - President
- Wang Huning - Chairman of the National Cmte (?) something like that
- Li Qiang - Premier
- Zhao Lijian - Some kind of diplomat with twitter
- Hu Juntao - Former president
Business:
- Jack Ma - Alibaba
- Robin Li - Baidu
Art/Entertainment:
- Jackie Chan
- Yao Ming
- Ai Weiwei
- Jeremy Lin
- Jet Li
- Chow Yun Fat
- Steven Chow
- Michelle Yeoh
- Zhang Ziyi
- Fan Bingbing
- Yan from Little Chinese Everywhere
Michelle Yeoh is Malaysian FYI.
Oh interesting, I guess I assumed from the name. There are many Malaysians of Chinese descent, but I thought looking them up would be cheating for my list lol
Yeah, no worries. My gf is Chinese-Malay and her mum worships Michelle Yoeh. Only reason I know.
nobody in this thread mentioned Jack Ma yet and I had to double check if he was still alive
Hu Mei, director
Chen Jianbin, actor and director
Tian Xiwei, actressdo I get extra credit for naming more?
Chen Jianbin, actor and director

smoke 'em if you got 'em
Get all the credit you want, honestly, I didn’t even think there was a point system to this.
Reminded of that recent comment section on this site talking about how Soviet academics all read western capitalist economists and Western a ademics couldn’t name Soviets they had read despite presuming they were the less propagandized.
Not-a-spy Tom Clancy had to invent a Soviet super weapon for his book. Hunt for Red October only works if you believe the American version of history and it still had to invent a plot doohickey to make the reds sufficiently menacing. Got turned into a movie. But we’re not propagandized to.
We rack our brains. “There is Xi Jinping, the president,” begins one of them.
I’m imagining this discussion happening very publicly in American media and someone argues that Gordon Chang is a Chinese national as the second suggestion.
In 2016 Republican primary candidates could barely name any American women they weren’t related to.
Here's how each one responded:
Rand Paul: Susan B. Anthony
Mike Huckabee: My wife
Marco Rubio: Rosa Parks
Ted Cruz: “I wouldn’t change the $10 bill, I’d change the 20” with Rosa Parks
Ben Carson: My mother
Donald Trump: Daughter Ivanka and Rosa Parks
Jeb Bush: Margaret Thatcher — “probably illegal, but what the heck”
Scott Walker: Clara Barton
Carly Fiorina: “I wouldn’t change — I think honestly, it’s a gesture.”
John Kasich: “I would pick Mother Teresa.”
Chris Christie: “The Adams family has been shorted in the currency business.”
This is probably a contraversial take but if you could keep them all in a zoo where they couldn’t harm actual living people, republican politicians would probably be seen as endearing, like gibbons or panda bears.
“You call yourself an apex predator, but look like this?
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Chris Christie: “The Adams family has been shorted in the currency business.”
This is Lily Munster erasure
Well Gordon Chang is the CPC’s top undercover agent so I think that’s fair.
Libs boutta be mad but Tsai Ing-wen (governor of the province of Taiwan), John Lee (representative of the district of Hong Kong), and the Dalai Lama (cultist in the territory of Tibet)
the Dalai Lama
you were supposed to name them, try again sweatyTenzin something? Gyatso?
10¢ Gyatt, so?
Gyatso
i am not clever enough so i will not try
- Xi Jinping
- Jackie Chan
- Christopher Lambert as Raiden
admittedly, for living chinese people i would have to think for a bit to come up with three that weren’t famous actors or sports people with big releases in the US.
Xi Jinping and Jack Ma is all that comes to mind in terms of public figures in the realm of political economy.
- Mao Tse Tung
- Mao Zedong
- Chairman Mao
Ez. Hes still real to me.
Three living Chinese people
I got bad news for you, bud :(
I got good news for you, they’re alive
holy shit it worked
They say you die twice, once when you post cringe and once when you lose subscriber. i will never unsubscribe, no matter how much cringe he posted near the end
No idea about Mao, but Bruce Lee will definitely live forever.
Mao agreed on that one
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