• Johnny_Arson [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    I have friends that are staunchly anti-zionist jews and I care about them so actually fuck this take. People I care about are gonna catch shit for this. What is wrong with you? This is not a zero sum game. Also Israel is not killing just non-Jews, they are also killing Jewish Palestinians. Nobody is “centering Jewish safety” and it is perfectly reasonable to talk about all the knock on effects of the actions of Israel.

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      i guess not enough people on here grew up around kkkrackers using “jewed” as a word for being ripped off. the headline should be two genocide supporters saw the message. christian zionists would have been as offended, and reporting it the way LBC did here makes them complicit in the zionist’s conflation.

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        if your jewish antiozionist friends are only antizionist out of a fear of reciprocal genocide then I don’t give a shit what they think.

        They’re not and have been since before most the fucking people on this site were alive. You act like it’s totally invalid to talk about this shit so I am choosing to just ignore you from here out.

            • Keld [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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              With the understanding that pre-emptively accusing (amongst others) victims of genocide by a dominant group of future racial violence against their oppressors is inherently problematic and that the threat against other groups such as, for instance, muslims and people of MENA descent is much more tangible and immediate, sure.

              Edit: That is why I said “Centering”.

              Also again, you misrepresented this as genocide against “non-Jewish people” when there are also Palestinian Jews that they have killed and even Israeli Jews the IDF killed on October 7th. I’m done talking to you.

              I don’t know how to tell you this, but zionism and the israeli state is an ethnonationalist project built up around jews as an ethnic category. The Israelis who ended up dying as a result of the hannibal doctrine et al do not invalidate this, and the Jews who maintain Palestinian citizenship also don’t do that.

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                  Nobody is saying the hypothetical reprisals would come from Muslims, it’s acknowledging it is fueling neo-Nazi antisemitism being fomented among white people.

                  Okay then. Let me phrase it thusly then. You are looking at a genocide being done and centering the consequences for the group the ethnonationalist group carrying it out seek to represent.

                  Your entire sentence makes no fucking sense by the way, I got what you were saying but you should reread that as a response to what I said because it sounds like gibberish.

                  “Pre-emptively accusing victims of genocide by a dominant group of future racial violence against their oppressors is inherently problematic” seems pretty clear cut to me, and you understood what I meant. So I’m just going to take this as you lashing out. Indeed just as every other post you have made in this thread have been.