I’m curious to know how ZionistPartner has sheilded SisterFriend from knowing about the entity so far. Offhanded dismissal or rabid propaganda recital plays different.
Might be worth telling SisterFriend that whatever child she has would be legally obligated into service or would have to go to prison. Basically garunteed an early adult life of some kind of psychological torture either doing a genocide or being abused in jail.
Hell, even apolitically mentioning how people are trying to leave Israel(sic) right now because of the war and constant trips to the bunker might work. ZionistHippy can moralize all day but /practically/ speaking why move to a war zone?
Anyway, you know the score, figured I’d throw in my two cents on that angle. “isrealis” were raised to believe their country is inevitable and invincible, might create a blind spot worth working at.
Might be worth telling SisterFriend that whatever child she has would be legally obligated into service or would have to go to prison. Basically garunteed an early adult life of some kind of psychological torture either doing a genocide or being abused in jail.
That’s if the state of Isra*el lasts another 19 years. In the meantime there would be all kinds of issues around citizenship. If your sister’s friend married this woman, she’d have an uphill battle with recognition and citizenship unless she went through an Orthodox Jewish conversion, and her partner would almost certainly be pushing for an Isra*eli sperm donor, which would slant things even more against her in terms of custody.
(Source: In the 2010s I dated a Jewish person, left-liberal JVP type, who voiced a lot of frustrations they came across about how the authorities over there managed citizenship and marriage. I was trying to convince them that ‘the country you toured is full of theocratic reactionaries who are not your friends’, but they dumped me first.)
I’m curious to know how ZionistPartner has sheilded SisterFriend from knowing about the entity so far. Offhanded dismissal or rabid propaganda recital plays different.
Might be worth telling SisterFriend that whatever child she has would be legally obligated into service or would have to go to prison. Basically garunteed an early adult life of some kind of psychological torture either doing a genocide or being abused in jail.
Hell, even apolitically mentioning how people are trying to leave Israel(sic) right now because of the war and constant trips to the bunker might work. ZionistHippy can moralize all day but /practically/ speaking why move to a war zone?
Anyway, you know the score, figured I’d throw in my two cents on that angle. “isrealis” were raised to believe their country is inevitable and invincible, might create a blind spot worth working at.
That’s if the state of Isra*el lasts another 19 years. In the meantime there would be all kinds of issues around citizenship. If your sister’s friend married this woman, she’d have an uphill battle with recognition and citizenship unless she went through an Orthodox Jewish conversion, and her partner would almost certainly be pushing for an Isra*eli sperm donor, which would slant things even more against her in terms of custody.
(Source: In the 2010s I dated a Jewish person, left-liberal JVP type, who voiced a lot of frustrations they came across about how the authorities over there managed citizenship and marriage. I was trying to convince them that ‘the country you toured is full of theocratic reactionaries who are not your friends’, but they dumped me first.)
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