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Yuritopiaposadism [none/use name]@hexbear.net to technology@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 days ago

The theory taking the rich by storm: China funds data center haters

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The theory taking the rich by storm: China funds data center haters

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Yuritopiaposadism [none/use name]@hexbear.net to technology@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 days ago
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  • underthunder@thelemmy.club
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    Well it can’t be our very own citizens who are living the folly of this madness.

  • SwagliacciTheBadClown [comrade/them, null/void]@hexbear.net
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    Not true- I hate data centers because I’m antisemitic!

    (/s - I just assume that’s gonna be the next thing they roll out)

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    China couldn’t get me to hate data centers more than I already do. Seriously. I’m insulted they even think they could improve upon my hatred of data centers.

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    I’m not sure “China cares more about the wellbeing and QOL of the average American more than the US government does” is the slam dunk argument they think it is.

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      Wanting Americans to have jobs is communism.

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      If they keep this up, then Gen Z Chinamaxxers will be going full Maoist by next year.

    • chgxvjh [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      It’s probably about persecuting protestors as foreign agents or some nonsense.

  • chgxvjh [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Please destroy the economy by going balls to the wall all in on AI datacenters.

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    Pretty funny especially when China is putting out some of the best open models. Funding the haters indeed.

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      Qwen was the gold standard for small local models for a minute, too. Gemma4 doing some good stuff with optimization.

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        I’ve been using Qwen 2.6 locally to good effect still. What are you on now? 2.7 seems good too but I’m very cagey about funding AI companies and so have had limited access. Same deal with Deepseek4 which seems alright.

        • LaughingLion [any, any]@hexbear.net
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          Recently? Gemma4 locally. Just got around to playing with the 12B Quantized Aware Training model today a little. Surprisingly powerful for only 12 billion parameters. What surprises me most is the efficiency stuff that’s packed into it. I’ve only got 8gb of VRAM, yet I can get 64k of context with faster-than-I-can read output. Before that I was using the 26B MOE model. Same context but faster at 20 tps.

          We are starting to get to the era where people can run their own models that are more than capable for the average user on pretty standard hardware.

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            I run one one a laptop like 3B slow . Thinking of aiming at getting something to run 12B. Think I can steal the setup at work for rebuilding it locally and use myself. What are your setup for running 12 tb , is it vram that’s the bottleneck ? Can I budget down everything else and just get a good gpu? Also are there any recommendation for true jailbreaked AI , that I can tweak myself without built in censoring or safety guards?

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    I really fucking wish i could be paid even 1/10000th the value these fucked to death morons think im getting for having opinions that, honestly, bring me nothing but depression

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    We’re really hitting the late game in the trend of monopoly revenues becoming synonymous with national security. To simply question the viability of these companies, or the market’s appetite for the services they provide is un-American. Let alone actually questioning their ecological sustainability or whether they should even be allowed to exist - that’s treason.

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    tale as old as time

    https://en.natopedia.org/wiki/Outside_agitator

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      The Mohawk Valley Formula has basically been the bourgeois modus operandi since it was thought up

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    Then the obvious question should be: Who funds data center lovers ?

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      also china

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        both-sides

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      The accusations are a confession.

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    Ed Xitron

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    Nobody told me there were huge yuan pockets going around

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    smuglord oh, your saying i was paid to promote this message? well, what were you paid? because it sounds to me like what you are saying is literally worthless

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    Ok, good

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