• Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works
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    15 hours ago

    Democrats back on the hunt for the elusive “center voter” I see. They will fail just as they have failed before going after “center voters”

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      They at least sometimes turn out. This mythical progressive voter (and indeed in blue as the ocean Cali where the climate die hard just lost) doesn’t seem to ever find a candidate worthy of getting off the couch for except once in a blue moon.

      I find it pretty incredulous to argue that Democrats meeting people where theyre at is a bad thing. And again, this is in California…

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        In my mind, it would be way easier to energize your own base than it is to convince people that prefer your opponent to vote for you. It’s not the “left’s fault” that Democrats keep failing to enact meaningful change.

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      14 hours ago

      I read the article and don’t understand your comment. How is this an example of democrats trying to get “center voters”?

      Not that they shouldn’t be trying to win over centrists, they definitely should because there are more centrists than leftists by a lot and those centrists are constituents.

      Not to mention that is how democrats have won the majority of nation wide elections in the last several decades.

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          10 hours ago

          If the majority of voters are centrists then shouldn’t the policies reflect that?

          Do you think leftist policies should be forced onto voters that don’t want them and vote against them?

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            Assuming the political leanings of the populous are measured in a vacuum, sure. But they aren’t. They are so much not that the idea of centrist in the US is pretty solid right for the rest of the democratic world. When your only options of votes are “guys who have a hard-on for fascism” and “let’s appeal to those who aren’t entirely sold but are willing to see where the fascism goes”, you see how this can, over time, really shove things in that direction. It’s a false choice that’s even further reduced due to both parties controlling educational resources and the generational knowledge base used to influence successive generations

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              Assuming the political leanings of the populous are measured in a vacuum, sure. But they aren’t.

              Right, we also aren’t measuring political leanings worldwide. We are measuring them in the United States.

              In the United States leftist have very few voters and candidates because of its lack of popularity.

              When your only options of votes are “guys who have a hard-on for fascism” and “let’s appeal to those who aren’t entirely sold but are willing to see where the fascism goes”,

              The reason these are the two options are because these options win in the primaries by the majority of voters choosing them in a democracy.

              Leftists run in the primaries and lose fairly, even to AIPAC candidates.