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      And Matt Mahan the mayor of San Jose, in case he wants to show his face again after such a loss. I’m not sure how much PG&E is bribing him with but enough to have an electric bill close to 3x the cost of the city of Santa Clara (next door) to bring in AI data centers to San Jose. Fuck him. He also has some photo op posing with ICE cameras as in San Jose thinking it was a good look (flock).

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        I’m Bay Area too and we got like 6 rate hikes in the last year. My town is like bankrupt yet magically they have money for flock.

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    Ultimately the only way to reduce emissions enough is for gas prices to be very high, but I can see how supporting high prices would be really unpopular politically

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      Not necessarily. The answer could be to make clean electricity prices so low that even normal gasoline prices are more expensive.

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    Democrats back on the hunt for the elusive “center voter” I see. They will fail just as they have failed before going after “center voters”

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      They at least sometimes turn out. This mythical progressive voter (and indeed in blue as the ocean Cali where the climate die hard just lost) doesn’t seem to ever find a candidate worthy of getting off the couch for except once in a blue moon.

      I find it pretty incredulous to argue that Democrats meeting people where theyre at is a bad thing. And again, this is in California…

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        In my mind, it would be way easier to energize your own base than it is to convince people that prefer your opponent to vote for you. It’s not the “left’s fault” that Democrats keep failing to enact meaningful change.

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      I read the article and don’t understand your comment. How is this an example of democrats trying to get “center voters”?

      Not that they shouldn’t be trying to win over centrists, they definitely should because there are more centrists than leftists by a lot and those centrists are constituents.

      Not to mention that is how democrats have won the majority of nation wide elections in the last several decades.

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          If the majority of voters are centrists then shouldn’t the policies reflect that?

          Do you think leftist policies should be forced onto voters that don’t want them and vote against them?

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            Assuming the political leanings of the populous are measured in a vacuum, sure. But they aren’t. They are so much not that the idea of centrist in the US is pretty solid right for the rest of the democratic world. When your only options of votes are “guys who have a hard-on for fascism” and “let’s appeal to those who aren’t entirely sold but are willing to see where the fascism goes”, you see how this can, over time, really shove things in that direction. It’s a false choice that’s even further reduced due to both parties controlling educational resources and the generational knowledge base used to influence successive generations

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              Assuming the political leanings of the populous are measured in a vacuum, sure. But they aren’t.

              Right, we also aren’t measuring political leanings worldwide. We are measuring them in the United States.

              In the United States leftist have very few voters and candidates because of its lack of popularity.

              When your only options of votes are “guys who have a hard-on for fascism” and “let’s appeal to those who aren’t entirely sold but are willing to see where the fascism goes”,

              The reason these are the two options are because these options win in the primaries by the majority of voters choosing them in a democracy.

              Leftists run in the primaries and lose fairly, even to AIPAC candidates.

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    Yes. Oil bad. But oil also necessary part of daily life for time being.

    Planning for a future without oil is important, but that future isn’t here and the doubling of fuel prices is hurting people who were already struggling. People who can’t afford to buy a new electric car, and without a house can’t affordably charge one anyway. People without public transit from their home to work. People who have to buy groceries, which are massively more expensive than just a few months ago.

    Solar is great, but doesn’t do shit for renters who can’t take advantage of it, and landlords don’t put it on rental units because it doesn’t save them a dime.

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    I think the reality of green energy too is that it’s difficult to lead at a state level, not to say it can’t be done, red states have certainly succeeded with upping their output of wind power no thanks to the elimination of subsidies. However for it to be truly effective it has to happen at the federal level which is just not going to happen under this administration. So I think we will see some growth because it is just affordable subsidized or not at this point but we won’t see the growth we should see.