The more people see the engagement, the more chance of them asking “what is that?” It won’t be long until the apps are better, and links to articles could be less likely to get suppressed than migration memes.
I can only speak for myself, but I only saw Mastodon as viable after I started being exposed to the content there…
That’s the tactic that got me started on Reddit. For a while before the dreaded relaunch, many of the links on Digg were just linking to Reddit posts.
I’m already doing it as I can and sometime getting downvote, but I’m fine.
I wonder how long it’ll take before Reddit starts shadowdeleting anything containing links to Fediverse websites?
One week
It’s been one week since spez looked at me Cocked his head to the side and said, “I’m angry” Five days since I joined Lemmy Saying, “Get your API together, come back and see me” Three days since the living room I realized it’s the IPO’s fault, but couldn’t see it through Yesterday, Spez was blocking me But it’ll still be two days 'til he says he’s sorry
Oh, probably like -5 days. I’m sure they’d just be blacklisting domains, though. Linking to smaller, lesser-known instances that don’t literally have “Lemmy” in their URL might work, though. Especially if you don’t re-use any particular instance too frequently.
But that might also confuse people.
url/link shorting websites that used to be used to hide rickroll links all the time would probably work to get around that
They probably are already
I have an automod that links to all the other places my sub is on. It’s getting mass reported everyday. I have to manually approve them all.
Yeah I end up having to report about 10 threads a day to reddit for report abuse spam because of this, they report it as hate speech when people talk about the blackout positively, trying to get people banned to silence them. The only way to prevent that is report each case of it to the admins so they know it’s a targeted attack. What these assholes are ACTUALLY doing is just making more work for the moderators that care if their members are banned over some dumb shit.
According to some users on r/redditalternatives some people have already been shadowbanned for posting lemmy links.
I posed this over a week ago as a test, and nothing seemed to happen.
Says deleted
That’s just because the mods who made that sub decided they don’t like the lemmy devs.
I also don’t like the Lemmy devs because of the nonsense they pull around the topic of the Chinese and Russian governments.
Still don’t block the people on my subs from talking about it. Because I’m not an asshole, and I don’t have to like everything that gets posted to my subs.
That’s how a shadow ban works. You think you’re posting as normal, and you see your posts, but your posts don’t show up for others and your votes don’t count.
It says “that comment is missing” for me.
I wonder if a link shortener would avoid that
Most big subs ban those full stop. Just because of what you’re suggesting.
Good question, but idk the answer
With Fediverse, you could see the exact same post with different links generated from different instances, so theoretically you could bypass the filter by using obscure instances to share the post link, assuming they’re just filtering links via domain name.
Oh they already banned and then unbanned the kbin migration sub.
Don’t overdo it or the links will be shadow banned for spam
I am going to delete my reddit account anyway. I will test their bottom line and there is nothing to lose.
Your name… OSRS does have F2P?
i have food but i still need it too
It’s a good idea, instead of “please join Lemmy/kbin”, just share posts and people get more interested on what is this
That‘s actually a smart idea. Thank you
Not always. Be careful. It got me banned from a few subreddits I thought were chill.
Someone should start a magazine specifically to catalog the subs that aren’t cool with fediverse crossposting, to save the hassle.
Good idea. Kind of like guerilla-marketing.
Good idea! I just posted a link to r/politicalhumor.
Aaaannnddd…autodeleted by bot. Links to other sites are forbidden.
Try using a url shortener and hiding the url behind the highlighted text link thingy like this
Might be enough to trick the bot, might not be. Only 1 way to find out
Nah, that’s called spam at that point.
Don’t make the Fediverse something that only has a reputation for spamming reddits.
Link to fediverse posts where it’s allowed and makes sense to do so.
Don’t link to fediverse posts - even using tinyurl workarounds - in places where that activity isn’t welcomed by the mods.
Absolutely, I’m not saying to spam anything. However, if every single post or comment with a fed url is deleted by automod, there should be a workaround
If every single post or comment with a fed url on a particular subreddit is being deleted by automod, then it’s because the mods of the subreddit presumably set it that way, and their wishes should be respected. Not respecting the wishes of subreddit mods was exactly how reddit got itself into the mess it is now in.
Just did that for the first time yesterday, actually!
Very smart idea, i think this will get users to get to Kbin/Lemmy
What if we called it kaboomy
It would be hilarious if the r/bestof mods changed their rules to only allow links to the fediverse
That’s basically how I ended up here. Got exposed enough to the look and feel that I decided it wasn’t too bad and I wanted in on the fun.
Are you having fun yet?
Hm. Generally, yes. I’m on kbin.social. tl;dr: Fantastic and excellent social media alternative, but as someone that’s worked years in ITSec, I have some huge concerns.
Things I found surprising:
- Registration was intuitive and easy.
- There’s already a huge volume of good content readily available without having to “find it” (I had imagined it being more like ““the dark web””, i.e. you have to know what site you’re looking for
- Voting transparency omg holy shit. I remember when Reddit introduced vote fuzzing and it was the dumbest thing. At least on kbin, who upvotes/downvotes something is publicly viewable. So rather than “let’s fuzz the votes to throw off the bots”, simply showing who voted allows you to easily find the troll downvoting everything or a flood of bots or so on. I imagine there’s probably not much tooling around this yet, but there inevitably will be.
Things I’ve found confusing, concerning, or have questions about (feel free to point me in the direction of a good magazine or FAQ as well):
- WTF is boost vs upvote?
- Are usernames unique across the fediverse, or only across instances? (Is there anything preventing me from registering e.g. Cryst@kbin.social , then jumping on this thread and pretending to be you, or vice versa?)
- What happens if an instance closes up shop? Is there any way to migrate everyone’s data over to another instance?
- What happens if I decide I hate kbin.social admins, or you decide you hate lemmy.ca admins - are either of us able to fairly seamlessly move our identities from one server to another? Or would it be “nope, create a new account and start over”?
- On reddit, a lot of good things happen around flairing (users, posts). Does fediverse have an equivalent?
- Sometimes as I’m browsing I find myself on a different server (I think) and the language of the GUI is entirely switched to Arabic or similar. I still haven’t figured out how to fix that or even what’s doing it.
I still need to set up my own instance and play with that too.
I registered as Emotional_Series7814 on kbin.social. Then I saw a post recommending that we don’t all register on the main site but scatter to other instances—after all, the point is to _de_centralize. So I went to kbin.cafe, attempted to register as Emotional_Series7814, and succeeded.
This is a really good idea, hopefully it will pull more people to our communities.
If anybody wants to share a link to kbin/Lemmy so people join, don’t send the official Lemmy or Kbin page (or the official page of any federated platform) nor the link to any given server. Share instead links to the Join the fediverse wiki, fedeverse party, etc that have lists of servers and also have posts explaining anything a person needs to know to start an account on any decentralized platform/server.
I would love to pick one maybe two subreddits to focus on taking the top posts and just reposting them to the communities here, but I’m kinda waiting on community consolidation to get fixed so I don’t waste time posting to empty communities. Also if there was a Reddit to Lemmy post migration script or something to automate it that would be awesome
