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Yuritopiaposadism [none/use name]@hexbear.net to technology@hexbear.netEnglish · 13 天前

Musk's SpaceX IPO Is A Time Bomb Inside Your 401(k) | The Majority Report

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Musk's SpaceX IPO Is A Time Bomb Inside Your 401(k) | The Majority Report

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  • Jabril [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    I don’t want to watch the majority report so if someone wants to summarize that would be cool.

    I don’t have a 401k but it’s always good to know how to talk to people who do about things like this

    • hexthismess [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Basically, Musk got the rules changed so his overvalued private company, can go public and get added to index funds. Usually in situations like this, the company has to wait 1 year on the exchange before being added to indexes, so its stabilized before index funds buy it.

      Since Musk got the rules changed, its the largest public stock offering that immediately went to index funds, because the index funds are required by law to buy the largest companies.

      Most people’s 401(k)s are tied to index funds. So this massively over valued company got paid $1.8T, which it can pay its private investors out with. Now the public is holding the bag in the form of retirement funds. When SpaceX collapses, so does everyone’s retirement accounts.

      • Blakey [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        Why can’t your shitty hellcountry crash and burn for a cool and/or funny reason, why’s it gotta be this boring shit.

      • SwitchyandWitchy [she/her]@hexbear.netM
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        Wym index funds are required to buy the largest companies? What law is this?

        • Pavlichenko_Fan_Club [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          Not a law, that’s just how index funds work. It’s meant to be an un-managed investment fund that tracks some aspect of the market via predefined rules. The S&P500 for instance tracks the top 500 companies by market capitalization (among a bunch of other weird rules), and it does so by purchasing shares in these companies proportionately. So new company appears that meets the criteria -> purchase. The big part of the story here is the fact that all of these index funds changed their rules to include spacex, especially when spacex’s finances look terrible.

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            I highly doubt that this is true. Do you have a reputable source for this?

            • context [fae/faer, fae/faer]@hexbear.netM
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              wall street journal

              FTSE Russell Latest to Make U.S. Index Inclusion Easier ahead of SpaceX IPO | May 27, 2026 (archive.ph)

              fortune

              You can ignore AI giants like SpaceX, but your 401(k) won’t | June 13, 2026 (archive.ph)

              u.s. senate committe on banking

              Warren Presses Index Providers on Rule Changes to Rush SpaceX Shares Into Americans’ Retirement Accounts | June 11, 2026 (senate.gov)

              nyc comptroller

              Letter to the London Stock Exchange Group and FTSE Russell Re: SpaceX | June 11, 2026 (nyc.gov)

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                It says index inclusion not ETF inclusion. So, if you buy an ETF of the S&P 500 you‘re good since there SpaceX is not listed.

                https://www.cnbc.com/2026/06/12/spacex-ipo-sp-500-index-funds-investors.html

                • context [fae/faer, fae/faer]@hexbear.netM
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                  s&p is one of the few that didn’t change their rules. if you buy an etf of a different index, they are legally required to purchase the same equities in the index, or that would be fraud.

                  from the article you linked:

                  The S&P 500 index committee decided to not shorten its standard 12-month period before adding newly public companies, in contrast to the decisions from the Nasdaq and Russell indexes about the mega-cap stock.

                  Many new SpaceX leveraged ETFs are debuting tomorrow so investors can hold the stock as an ETF with varying degrees of risk.

                  Unlike the S&P, index committees for the Nasdaq and Russell market benchmarks said they would update their rules. In the simplest terms, here’s what that means for core U.S. market index fund investors.

                  “If you want SpaceX, you’re not buying the S&P 500. You’re going to buy the NASDAQ 100 or the Russell 1000,” said Strategas Securities chief ETF strategist Todd Sohn on this week’s “ETF Edge.”

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        Thank you ! order-of-lenin

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        The 1,8T is just the total evaluation I think. But now they’re selling stocks at a fixed price and changing the rules so investors can sell (start dumping) earlier than usual. Basically setting their own evaluation…

        Just absolute clown world.

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    You think they understand that when every person who has even a little bit to squirrel away gets all their hopes and dreams for retirement gutted… That mobs of people are actually going kill them?

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      I think that’s likely the greater part of why the federal security apparatus is modeling anti-AI riot scenarios.

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    disclaimer not a finance guy, but SpaceX IPO isn’t the bomb (there’s only about $85 billion dollars of these shares to go around and most funds are float adjusted), it’s the fuse that will blow the overvaluation of all AI companies and that will wipe out your 401k.

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    Would be really cool if people reacted to this the same way New Yorkers reacted to the Knicks winning the championship

    That would never happen, I’m the fun police. I yearn for people to get their priorities straight

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