I find it kinda odd how this sounds like oil reserves running out will be really bad at some point. Yet also how absolutely nothing is being done to slow down usage. They are not even asking people to stop non essential journeys or to work from home where possible.
wait until the cult of vroom - the pavement princesses and motorheads whos trucks, race cars and hogs consume ridiculous amounts - have to put their toys away because their man trump, who hates them, but hates wind and decency more, decided he could figure out MIDEAST PEACE BY WAY OF BOMBS because he’s so fuckin clever.
fuck 'em, but unfortunately the hits to fertilizer and the poor will hurt a lot more than their bullshit.
Sure we ran out of corn, but then we realized we had all this seed corn for next season.
The naysayers and sky is falling group told us “you can’t just eat your seed corn” but you should have seen the shocked look on those smarty pants faces when we easily turned the seed corn into breads and cakes and porridges.
Poor fools seriously thought you couldn’t actually eat seed corn. Now we are having a lovely time with full bellies! They keep asking about what we will do when it comes time to plant, but that isn’t for months and we are hungry now.
But that would require planning for the future. Those in charge of everything in the US haven’t practiced that particular skill in years. Short term profits for the here and now > long term profits for the future. This is the inevitable result.
I think the logic is that ridiculous gas prices will encourage people to reduce consumption on their own. But the reality is nobody really has a choice but to use at the same rate and simply pay, so the boosted fuel cost doesn’t curb demand and is no different than the toilet paper profiteering during the pandemic. Either way, it’s looking to be about time for the US to cut Iran a sweetheart deal to fix their colossal fuck up.
Higher gas prices should promote more conservative driving habits as well, but they don’t. People don’t drive the speed limits now, they won’t slow down to save money, and they make automated enforcement a political liability, ensuring anyone who tries to rein them in gets the boot. Will sure be interesting if they completely run out, but just like the band continued to play while the Titanic went down, it’s going to be business as usual here until reality slaps us in the face.
EV owners were derided for driving “slowly” (within the speed limit!) to save power and not have worries about charging, so we do know that car owners will actually do stuff like that once they’re actually concerned. Fossil fuels still seem to be cheap enough that people don’t, though.
yeah cuz the lobby worked so well to fight trains in cities as well as cross country. i was working a job in a city 3 hours from my city for 6 months. i drove home on the weekends to have family time. i had to waste 6 hours of my weekend driving to and from instead of just hopping a train and taking a nap or reading piefed or just looking out the window enjoying the view.
fuck the oil lobby. they ruined a lot of things that could have been great for us in the make of money.
Do you just have the nicest oil and gas companies in the world who wouldn’t dream of profiteering in the name of curbing demand during a global shortage, or are you already jacked up to the point that an increase would cause a revolt?
I mean, if you believe in capitalism as many of our dear leaders do, you wouldn’t feel a need to “ask people” about limiting usage. As a product becomes more expensive, eventually people will naturally limit usage and purchase another cheaper product.
Not saying that’s correct or how it works but might explain the behavior.
The answer to this in capitalism is Keynesian economics. Raise tariffs to reduce demand and redistribute that money to everyone (through public works; lowering other taxes; universal basic income; or literally burning the money to reduce inflation and make people richer in proportion to their wealth).
Unfortunately, the capitalism the US government subscribes to is centralization of wealth through insider trading on economic shocks. When those tanks run dry and there is an economic crisis, the white house will have the authority to respond to the crisis. It will communicate its planned response to favored investors, allowing them to make the right investments to profit off the crisis, while investors who don’t have the white house’s favor have to guess and will therefore end up transferring wealth to those with better information through the stock market.
Elon Musk is a trillionaire because he has the white house’s favor, and so insider trading on government policy has exploded his wealth. When these oil reserves run dry, the white house will choose some response, and whatever that response is the white house’s clients will be in the right place at the right time to make a profit.
“ a lowcost Budget airline for low income people” shutting down
A rich persons problem?
Bruh, the rich didn’t fly spirit… and even if they did they still have options… like yeah some rich asshole lost their company but this hits low income travelers much harder than the rich.
It’s also beside the point. They said oil prices “barely changed” but whatever their definition of “barely” is, they changed enough to bankrupt a big company.
Cause I’ve been poor my whole life until the last few years. Mom worked three jobs so we could eat Mac and cheese every night growing up. Been homeless multiple times even…
You severely underestimate the craftyness, resourcefulness, and tenacity of the poor.
I’m not talking about flying for a luxury vacation, shit, I’m not even talking about making a wedding, funeral, or birth, ya know big things. I’m talking about have to’s… like mom in the hospital 8 states away. Grandma being foreclosed on and can’t afford assisted living and somebody has to be there,
lol I don’t fly, but for someone in my shoes whose brother lives across the country, my options are either a full 1,200 mile / 18+hr drive or $180-300 on a 5hr flight to and from while also saving wear on my car, or to just not see my brother.
I prefer the third option as my brother is trash, but be for real. The airline that went down made it easier for everyday people that didnt have booku money to fly. Celebrating this as a hit to the rich is civilly tone deaf and naive
I find it kinda odd how this sounds like oil reserves running out will be really bad at some point. Yet also how absolutely nothing is being done to slow down usage. They are not even asking people to stop non essential journeys or to work from home where possible.
wait until the cult of vroom - the pavement princesses and motorheads whos trucks, race cars and hogs consume ridiculous amounts - have to put their toys away because their man trump, who hates them, but hates wind and decency more, decided he could figure out MIDEAST PEACE BY WAY OF BOMBS because he’s so fuckin clever.
fuck 'em, but unfortunately the hits to fertilizer and the poor will hurt a lot more than their bullshit.
Don’t worry to offset the oil being expended Trump will find another country to invade and take their supplies instead, America first remember?
Sounds like I should expand my rice stockpile, only got around 10kg currently.
Coffee too…
Which, by the way, is THE ENTIRE FICKING POINT OF THE RESERVES IN THE FIRST PLACE
for graceful demand destruction and rationing to take place before it runs out. Because if you don’t do that everything breaks…
Sure we ran out of corn, but then we realized we had all this seed corn for next season.
The naysayers and sky is falling group told us “you can’t just eat your seed corn” but you should have seen the shocked look on those smarty pants faces when we easily turned the seed corn into breads and cakes and porridges.
Poor fools seriously thought you couldn’t actually eat seed corn. Now we are having a lovely time with full bellies! They keep asking about what we will do when it comes time to plant, but that isn’t for months and we are hungry now.
That seems depressingly accurate
But that would require planning for the future. Those in charge of everything in the US haven’t practiced that particular skill in years. Short term profits for the here and now > long term profits for the future. This is the inevitable result.
Almost like they are intentionally sabotaging the nations institutions, like a domestic terrorist…
I don’t live in the US though and the same seems to be the case here. UK, I have seen absolutely no impact at all. No changes.
Would you rather:
📈, then 💥💣🧨📉📉📉📉 but next quarter?
Or
⛔🛢️⛔📉, then 📈?
This is the brainrot emoji logic going through the brains of our leaders.
That would require our government to have even the slightest amount of self-awareness. And that’s just not in the Trump administration wheelhouse.
I think the logic is that ridiculous gas prices will encourage people to reduce consumption on their own. But the reality is nobody really has a choice but to use at the same rate and simply pay, so the boosted fuel cost doesn’t curb demand and is no different than the toilet paper profiteering during the pandemic. Either way, it’s looking to be about time for the US to cut Iran a sweetheart deal to fix their colossal fuck up.
There are things that can be done to curb demand without cutting travel itself, like lowering speed limits for fossil cars.
But the right wing political machine runs on the opinion that stuff like that is all left-wing, and that right-wing means unlimited cheap gasoline.
“Reality has a well-known liberal bias” and all that
Higher gas prices should promote more conservative driving habits as well, but they don’t. People don’t drive the speed limits now, they won’t slow down to save money, and they make automated enforcement a political liability, ensuring anyone who tries to rein them in gets the boot. Will sure be interesting if they completely run out, but just like the band continued to play while the Titanic went down, it’s going to be business as usual here until reality slaps us in the face.
EV owners were derided for driving “slowly” (within the speed limit!) to save power and not have worries about charging, so we do know that car owners will actually do stuff like that once they’re actually concerned. Fossil fuels still seem to be cheap enough that people don’t, though.
yeah cuz the lobby worked so well to fight trains in cities as well as cross country. i was working a job in a city 3 hours from my city for 6 months. i drove home on the weekends to have family time. i had to waste 6 hours of my weekend driving to and from instead of just hopping a train and taking a nap or reading piefed or just looking out the window enjoying the view.
fuck the oil lobby. they ruined a lot of things that could have been great for us in the make of money.
In the UK prices have barely moved
Do you just have the nicest oil and gas companies in the world who wouldn’t dream of profiteering in the name of curbing demand during a global shortage, or are you already jacked up to the point that an increase would cause a revolt?
No idea, it isn’t something I buy so haven’t paid a huge amount of attention to it tbh
I mean, if you believe in capitalism as many of our dear leaders do, you wouldn’t feel a need to “ask people” about limiting usage. As a product becomes more expensive, eventually people will naturally limit usage and purchase another cheaper product.
Not saying that’s correct or how it works but might explain the behavior.
The answer to this in capitalism is Keynesian economics. Raise tariffs to reduce demand and redistribute that money to everyone (through public works; lowering other taxes; universal basic income; or literally burning the money to reduce inflation and make people richer in proportion to their wealth).
Unfortunately, the capitalism the US government subscribes to is centralization of wealth through insider trading on economic shocks. When those tanks run dry and there is an economic crisis, the white house will have the authority to respond to the crisis. It will communicate its planned response to favored investors, allowing them to make the right investments to profit off the crisis, while investors who don’t have the white house’s favor have to guess and will therefore end up transferring wealth to those with better information through the stock market.
Elon Musk is a trillionaire because he has the white house’s favor, and so insider trading on government policy has exploded his wealth. When these oil reserves run dry, the white house will choose some response, and whatever that response is the white house’s clients will be in the right place at the right time to make a profit.
The price of it has barely changed here
Not sure where you live but it shut down an entire low-cost budget airline for low-income people in the USA
UK, tbh an airline shutting down sounds like rich people problems so I don’t overly care.
“ a lowcost Budget airline for low income people” shutting down
A rich persons problem?
Bruh, the rich didn’t fly spirit… and even if they did they still have options… like yeah some rich asshole lost their company but this hits low income travelers much harder than the rich.
It’s also beside the point. They said oil prices “barely changed” but whatever their definition of “barely” is, they changed enough to bankrupt a big company.
Poor people don’t fly, period
Are you poor?
Cause I’ve been poor my whole life until the last few years. Mom worked three jobs so we could eat Mac and cheese every night growing up. Been homeless multiple times even… You severely underestimate the craftyness, resourcefulness, and tenacity of the poor.
I’m not talking about flying for a luxury vacation, shit, I’m not even talking about making a wedding, funeral, or birth, ya know big things. I’m talking about have to’s… like mom in the hospital 8 states away. Grandma being foreclosed on and can’t afford assisted living and somebody has to be there,
You are fucking flying, you have enough money that I don’t care.
lol I don’t fly, but for someone in my shoes whose brother lives across the country, my options are either a full 1,200 mile / 18+hr drive or $180-300 on a 5hr flight to and from while also saving wear on my car, or to just not see my brother.
I prefer the third option as my brother is trash, but be for real. The airline that went down made it easier for everyday people that didnt have booku money to fly. Celebrating this as a hit to the rich is civilly tone deaf and naive