• CannonFodder@lemmy.world
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    Sucks. But Canada is under a shitload of economic pressure now with the U.S. fucking us over. It would be great if we could have everything, but sometimes difficult decisions need to be made.

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      Canada is like someone who’s trying to stop smoking, hits a rough patch, and starts smoking even more because they don’t know any other way to deal with stress. Doubling down on fossil fuels isn’t the only way to deal with this economic pressure.

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      You realize that from young people point of view, the “hard decision” is “let’s just fuck the young ones and embrace collective suicide!”?

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        The young people also need their healthcare funded right now, along with their education, job stimulus, etc. kinda a privileged attitude, if they just assume mommy and daddy can pay their bills when the economy implodes. it’s a difficult and complex balance, so one can only carefully navigate somewhere down the middle.

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          Every time the same argument. “Let’s keep our unsustainable society without any drastic change until the collapse becomes inevitable and it’s too late to prepare for it” is such a pragmatic approach.

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          • Who gives a fuck about the economy imploding at the expense of the extinction of our species?
          • The ‘economy’ is made up nonsense to enrich the most morally bankrupt involved while shitting on everyone else.
          • The death of our planet’s ecosystem is a real possible future we are facing; let the economy burn.
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          Take the money out of the >20 billion in subsidies for oil an gas, take it by taxing the ultra-rich who are fucking this country over. If the only “reasonable” reaction to pressure by the US is to double down on oil and fuck over the next guy then we already are a US state.

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            Not directly related, but can we also seize Kevin O’Leary’s assets and fire him out of a cannon into the sun?

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      Take a load of this guy thinking that climate change doesn’t cause economic pressure.

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        Well yes, but not as directly and immediately as stifling businesses. Not saying I agree with Carney on this one; I don’t have the numbers nor am I an expert on macro economics. But Carney kinda is. So I’m on the fence whether to trust him on this.

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          He’s a banker. Bankers tell poor people “give us your money, we will keep it safe!” Did you ever trust a kid who tells you “hey, give me your candy, I’ll keep it safe?”

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      This is why we should have gotten out of the US trade relationship yesterday last year a decade ago two decades ago I mean never got involved with them.

      All we can do now is get out of it and take the brunt of the economic down turn that comes from allowing it to reach this point.

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      I too think thats the reason and not some ill intent. Basically ol’ reliable. (that in the long run isnt reliable but fucks the whole planet over but you know what i mean)

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      Yea, so I guess one of the changes allowing for companies to bypass evironmental reviews, which will do a lot to help US based energy companies, pisses you off, then? Or any of the other things being done that benefit US companies at our expense?

      Be serious, he’s selling us out and we’re getting fuck-all in return.

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        Yes it does piss me off. And we shouldn’t allow US control of any of our resources. Not that big Canadian companies would be much better.
        I do think that some of the environmental controls and other regulations may have gone too far and they tend to just make development impossible. And as much as we might not like it, we do need development.

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          Development for development’s sake is so utterly worthless, though. If we do it poorly it just costs us money and whatever we do get is funnelled towards the ultra-rich who centrists and conservatives refuse tax. We have known how to fix this shit for a loooong time but we cannot seem to bring ourselves to a) vote for anyone who actually represents us or b) even show up to vote at all.

          Stop making excuses for the worst people and start standing up for yourself.