Fuck fossil fuels.

  • Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world
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    10 天前

    Its becoming more common here in Central Europe, most new builds family houses have them.

    They have a couple drawbacks, like the high upfront cost (in my country a mid-range pump can cost between 3-8K Euros) and they work best with well insulated buildings, but once its installed they can save a tons of money, especially when paired with solar panels or wind turbines.

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      10 天前

      For a flat I once had, to have 24 degrees I paid 2000 € in just gas for one year. It may seem high, but it gets profitable pretty quickly.

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      9 天前

      Where would that be? My sister in Germany just got an offer for a heat pump+installation for 42k Euros in Germany.

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          9 天前

          Prices are high in germany… It’s next to impossible to even find someone willing to work on non-industrial jobs in my region (unless you’re willing to fork over like 300€/hr for someone working the weekend) and material costs are sky-high as well.

          Replacing our old gas heaters with new ones (pre covid, around 2020 i think) was over 8k€ per apartment if I remember correctly. (4-family home) That’s without having to factor in new pipes or what inflation has done to prices here during/after covid.

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        9 天前

        Thats a lot. My whole water installation was under 5k (plumbing without appliances + floor heating) for a 110 m2 family house, plus got mutiple offers for heat pumps (install+setup) between 4k - 8k with different mid-ranged models (air-water) after stating my budget. Of course there are high-end models for 10-20k, but I have no reason to choose smart features and buzzwords for the premium price.

        Location is Slovakia, but prices in Hungary and Czech Republic are similar. All prices are from 2025-2026, with government support program for energy saving appliances.

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        That sounds like a quote for a ground source heat pump. Air source heat pumps are far more popular and much cheaper to install.

        Labour is the main cost. Ours was about €11k. Future replacements would cost as much as a boiler upgrade since the pipework and radiators are already there.