• Juice@midwest.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    2 hours ago

    training

    You know which police department was nationally regarded as the most well trained PD in the country re: deescalation prior to 2020? Minneapolis.

    Lack of training isn’t the issue.

  • BougieBirdie@piefed.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    43
    ·
    6 hours ago

    I had an involuntary wellness check once.

    During the whole thing I kept thinking, “If I make a play for his gun, he’d have to shoot me, right?”

    This in another long line of reasons you shouldn’t send a poorly trained man with a gun to do a wellness check.

  • JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    28
    ·
    6 hours ago

    Had to send my sister off for a 72 hour hold yesterday. Cops and I showed up at the same time, I let them in and then they just kinda stood around and watched me handle it until medics arrived lmao

    Fucking Sheriff standing there asking some random dude “what should we do about the animals?” Don’t you have a procedure for this???

  • viertesauge@feddit.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    11
    ·
    6 hours ago

    Isnt the second post an example of a cop being well prepared? I mean isnt it an actual tactic to say something surprising/stupid/whatever to get someone to snap out of a meltdown?

    • FireRetardant@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      3 hours ago

      I dont even think it was stupid i think bro was trying his best given no training and the circumstance. You see it all the time in bodycam footage they often dumb stuff down to the level of a parent scolding a kid. The cop was trying to sympathize while also pointing out hey this isn’t a great solution without coming off as you can’t do that because i said so or pretending to know whats going on in their head. Just straight to the point this isn’t a great idea.

    • atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      3 hours ago

      It didn’t snap them out of the meltdown. That’s not how any of this works. It would be like asking somebody eating ice cream if we can agree that ice cream is bad. People who are suicidal are rarely under the impression that those around them would be worse off if they were gone. Asking somebody who has convinced themselves that killing themselves would be a good thing this question is out of touch with the situation at best.

      • viertesauge@feddit.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        3 hours ago

        Thats my point though. Asking someone suicidal if killing themselves is bad is a nonsensical ridiculous question. In this case it made the OOP stop crying (and maybe spiraling, we dont know).

      • TheLowestStone@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        4 hours ago

        Based on every interaction I’ve ever had with a police officer (with one, very specific, exception), it was not intentional.