• Glytch@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    he expressed the ultimate love to us on the Cross

    By masochistically sacrificing Himself, to Himself, to pay a price He chose to charge of His own free will, in order to cleanse us of the “taint” of actions He considers sins.

    For the sake of argument let’s assume what you believe happened happened and that your god is real. The problem with omnipotence is that you can’t blaim anyone else for the system you set up. The crucifixion didn’t need to happen to “free us from sin”, God wanted to incarnate into a mortal form and be tortured to death. Why? I cannot say, but He could have chosen some other way. He could choose to not threaten us with eternal torture simply for not loving Him. That isn’t love.

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      11 hours ago

      It is not God who rejects us, it is us that reject God

      and the concept of hell is basically a place without God

      you didnt want God your entire life, so yeah, you wont be with God, you have free will

      but ohhh you want the privileges that come with creation and God himself but not put in any spiritual effort yourself?

      God is a fair judge, and he cant just let people off UNLESS someone else takes the punishment

      Jesus took the punishment

      • Glytch@lemmy.world
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        1 hour ago

        God is a fair judge, and he cant just let people off UNLESS someone else takes the punishment

        Why not? Seriously. He set up the system. Why require punishment in that system? Jesus and God are the same person (hence “triune” ), so He essentially had us torture and kill Himself to appease His own vengeance.

        He could have forgiven us without preconditions. He chose to require punishment. Then He chose to be tortured and killed . Now He demands that we thank him for it or He’ll punish us for eternity. That’s psychopath behavior.

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          because there are consequences for your actions?

          and the trinity is comprised of three different persons and one God

          We know very little about hell currently, and dantes inferno isnt canon