People just pretend there aren’t bad atheists for some reason.
What are you talking about? >90% of the time it’s the other way around. Most of the time, people don’t think about atheism unless they’re bashing them.
I call bad atheism “The Cult of the Void”. They believe that, after you die, there is just oblivion. They have no more empirical evidence for this than any other belief system,
Just stop, you don’t understand what you’re talking about. The idea behind it is “we have no evidence for any of the claims so we must stick with the default hypothesis of ‘nothing’”. It’s basic scientific method.
They usually recruit by bullying and negging people into believing their beliefs are stupid
No, they don’t. Just the assholes, which are a minority. Meanwhile every religion tries to brainwash kids while they’re young, often threatening them with eternal hellfire if they step out of line.
The good atheists are respectful and curious.
Well this is going in a good direction at least
They don’t share the belief
So the “good” ones are the ones that only sit down and shut up? Fuck off with that. There’s a spectrum of ways to respectfully share your own opinions
You don’t notice the quiet ones that are just existing happily.
You’re clearly only adding this last line in here to give yourself a façade of reason, like the religious version of “I’m not racist, but”
Self identifying as the asshole type with your hateful response. I don’t mind people sharing their views and beliefs. I do mind when people say theirs is the only correct / logical one. I find that almost every atheist in online spaces is insufferable like this.
Of course there’s people who will read the Bible and ignore the parts they don’t agree with and then hit their kids. That’s kind of the point of this entire thread, that being a jerk isn’t actually tied to your religion at all, people will always find a way to be unkind.
Your entire comment is full of bad faith arguments and bias.
It’s clear from your words that you think all atheists are assholes, inferior, or both, and you’re not actually looking for a discussion.
In this thread you’ve done nothing but demonstrate that you’re intellectually and morally bankrupt while trying to pretend that everyone else is the problem.
I never said all, and I never said they’re inferior. I’m pointing out a real problem where a lot of atheists act with prejudice to all religion and spiritual people. They often believe they’re morally and intellectually superior, while pretending that all religion is the problem, and use bad faith arguments (using your own words, thanks for proving my points).
Some of the smartest, kindest people I know happen to be religious, but you would condemn them. There’s nothing stopping you from being someone that respects others’ beliefs, who happens to be atheist. We don’t have to be incompatible, and it confuses me why you choose to be.
If you want me to respect you, stop attacking people when they talk about their beliefs, and don’t call them stupid or illogical or unscientific. Try reflecting on why my list of grievances upsets you so much. Do they sound familiar maybe?
Some of the smartest, kindest people I know happen to be religious, but you would condemn them.
Would I? You have no idea. You don’t know me; you’re clearly making things up because you don’t actually want address yourown biases.
If you want me to respect you, stop attacking people when they talk about their beliefs,
When did I do that? All I did was call you out ob your dishonest arguements regarding Atheism.
We don’t have to be incompatible, and it confuses me why you choose to be.
I’m arguing against you because you’re making incorrect, bad faith arguments about Atheism. If you don’t want me to argue with you, then don’t go on here acting like Tucker Carlson.
You’re the one being a villain in this thread. The adult thing to do would be for you to recognize that and shut up. But you seem incapable of considering that you can be the villain and continue talking.
If you want me to respect you, stop attacking people when they talk about their beliefs,
When did I do that? All I did was call you out ob your dishonest arguements regarding Atheism
Also here’s a list of insults you’ve leveled at me so far in this thread, since you seem to need a reminder.
list
You’re the one being a villain in this thread. The adult thing to do would be for you to recognize that and shut up. But you seem incapable of considering that you can be the villain and continue talking.
Grow up.
In this thread you’ve done nothing but demonstrate that you’re intellectually and morally bankrupt while trying to pretend that everyone else is the problem.
Get over yourself.
Fuck off with that.
You’re clearly only adding this last line in here to give yourself a façade of reason, like the religious version of “I’m not racist, *but*”
Read my original comment again. I only highlighted things you guys do that are not nice to be around.
Many times you’ve accused me of writing things I never did. Again, I never said all, you’re not all evil, but you guys often have this persecution complex where you emotionally and violently react to all spirituality in your presence. Especially online, in forums like Lemmy and Reddit. It’s like you lose your ability to read accurately and just make up things I never wrote.
I don’t believe I deserve this kind of treatment for just pointing out what it’s like “on the other side of the fence”. You seem perfectly happy to say all religion is evil and brain washes children, then turn around and say I’m making bad faith arguments for only pointing out ugly behaviours like you’re showcasing right now.
I don’t even know what you’re expecting me to say. Do you want me to apologise and say I’m wrong for listing factual things that have actually happened to me? That are happening literally right now?
Many times you’ve accused me of writing things I never did.
You started this comment chain going out of your way to stereotype atheism as a hostile cult with multiple examples of bad-faith arguments. Go reread your original comment yourself.
but you guys often have this persecution complex
Again, go reread your original comment. This is pure hypocrisy.
Also, accusing me of violence? You’re the one making accusations here. I’ve never threatened violence against you. Seriously, you need to go through a lot of self reflection.
You seem perfectly happy to say all religion is evil and brain washes children, then turn around and say I’m making bad faith arguments for only pointing out ugly behaviours like you’re showcasing right now.
Ah, yes. Of course calling people out for brainwashing and abusing of power is just as bad as doing those in the first place. /s
I don’t even know what you’re expecting me to say.
Rethink your arguments. As I’ve said before, they aren’t good arguments. You did not enter this thread to have a respectful discussion, given your assertions are the only good Atheists are the ones that sit down and don’t talk back, while religious people get to evangelize all they want. It’s a complete double-standard.
Do you want me to apologise and say I’m wrong for listing factual things that have actually happened to me? That are happening literally right now?
Again, this reeks of a persecution complex. You want to know what I want? I want double-standards and bad faith arguments to end. If you stopped doing that I wouldn’t bother responding. If that’s too hard for you, the block button is right there.
What are you talking about? >90% of the time it’s the other way around. Most of the time, people don’t think about atheism unless they’re bashing them.
Just stop, you don’t understand what you’re talking about. The idea behind it is “we have no evidence for any of the claims so we must stick with the default hypothesis of ‘nothing’”. It’s basic scientific method.
No, they don’t. Just the assholes, which are a minority. Meanwhile every religion tries to brainwash kids while they’re young, often threatening them with eternal hellfire if they step out of line.
Well this is going in a good direction at least
So the “good” ones are the ones that only sit down and shut up? Fuck off with that. There’s a spectrum of ways to respectfully share your own opinions
You’re clearly only adding this last line in here to give yourself a façade of reason, like the religious version of “I’m not racist, but”
Self identifying as the asshole type with your hateful response. I don’t mind people sharing their views and beliefs. I do mind when people say theirs is the only correct / logical one. I find that almost every atheist in online spaces is insufferable like this.
Of course there’s people who will read the Bible and ignore the parts they don’t agree with and then hit their kids. That’s kind of the point of this entire thread, that being a jerk isn’t actually tied to your religion at all, people will always find a way to be unkind.
Your entire comment is full of bad faith arguments and bias.
It’s clear from your words that you think all atheists are assholes, inferior, or both, and you’re not actually looking for a discussion.
In this thread you’ve done nothing but demonstrate that you’re intellectually and morally bankrupt while trying to pretend that everyone else is the problem.
Get over yourself.
I never said all, and I never said they’re inferior. I’m pointing out a real problem where a lot of atheists act with prejudice to all religion and spiritual people. They often believe they’re morally and intellectually superior, while pretending that all religion is the problem, and use bad faith arguments (using your own words, thanks for proving my points).
Some of the smartest, kindest people I know happen to be religious, but you would condemn them. There’s nothing stopping you from being someone that respects others’ beliefs, who happens to be atheist. We don’t have to be incompatible, and it confuses me why you choose to be.
If you want me to respect you, stop attacking people when they talk about their beliefs, and don’t call them stupid or illogical or unscientific. Try reflecting on why my list of grievances upsets you so much. Do they sound familiar maybe?
Would I? You have no idea. You don’t know me; you’re clearly making things up because you don’t actually want address yourown biases.
When did I do that? All I did was call you out ob your dishonest arguements regarding Atheism.
I’m arguing against you because you’re making incorrect, bad faith arguments about Atheism. If you don’t want me to argue with you, then don’t go on here acting like Tucker Carlson.
You’re the one being a villain in this thread. The adult thing to do would be for you to recognize that and shut up. But you seem incapable of considering that you can be the villain and continue talking.
Grow up.
Also here’s a list of insults you’ve leveled at me so far in this thread, since you seem to need a reminder.
list
And how is that an attack on your beliefs in the slightest? I’m attacking your arguments and behavior, not your religion.
The fact that you can’t conflate the two is very telling.
You started this comment chain with attacks, and now you play the victim as soon as you get pushback. Again, grow up.
Read my original comment again. I only highlighted things you guys do that are not nice to be around.
Many times you’ve accused me of writing things I never did. Again, I never said all, you’re not all evil, but you guys often have this persecution complex where you emotionally and violently react to all spirituality in your presence. Especially online, in forums like Lemmy and Reddit. It’s like you lose your ability to read accurately and just make up things I never wrote.
I don’t believe I deserve this kind of treatment for just pointing out what it’s like “on the other side of the fence”. You seem perfectly happy to say all religion is evil and brain washes children, then turn around and say I’m making bad faith arguments for only pointing out ugly behaviours like you’re showcasing right now.
I don’t even know what you’re expecting me to say. Do you want me to apologise and say I’m wrong for listing factual things that have actually happened to me? That are happening literally right now?
You started this comment chain going out of your way to stereotype atheism as a hostile cult with multiple examples of bad-faith arguments. Go reread your original comment yourself.
Again, go reread your original comment. This is pure hypocrisy.
Also, accusing me of violence? You’re the one making accusations here. I’ve never threatened violence against you. Seriously, you need to go through a lot of self reflection.
Ah, yes. Of course calling people out for brainwashing and abusing of power is just as bad as doing those in the first place. /s
Rethink your arguments. As I’ve said before, they aren’t good arguments. You did not enter this thread to have a respectful discussion, given your assertions are the only good Atheists are the ones that sit down and don’t talk back, while religious people get to evangelize all they want. It’s a complete double-standard.
Again, this reeks of a persecution complex. You want to know what I want? I want double-standards and bad faith arguments to end. If you stopped doing that I wouldn’t bother responding. If that’s too hard for you, the block button is right there.