The dude was using a makeshift mortar to fire at densely populated urban areas even though using mortars where forbidden because the amount of civilians that got murdered was to high even for the us army standards. At the absolute provable minimum he risked children getting killed or injured even after ordered not to do so
He said he was firing at enemy mortar positions. You know, people shooting at them. They shouldn’t be there obviously but it’s a little different don’t you think?
He said he was firing at enemy mortar positions. You know, people shooting at them
Him having such enemies is a direct and very expected consequence of him signing up to torture, kill, and otherwise subjugate the people of Iraq and Afghanistan multiple times.
The only way you can think he had any right to retaliate in general is if you think that repeatedly signing up to torture, kill, and otherwise subjugate the people of Iraq and Afghanistan multiple times is perfectly okay.
There’s a difference between accidentally running over someone and intentionally doing it. The effect is the same, the intent is not. I’m not saying he was good or righteous or morally correct or anything.
there’s a difference between accidents and negligently lobbing grenades in an enemies general direction while fighting in densely populated urban areas.
Contrary to what you are implying, one does not accidentally build a mortar, fire it at civilians, and then speak on forums about how awesome of an experience that was.
One also does not accidentally sign up multiple times to go torture and kill people in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Ok so you get the order from higher ups that shelling this area is forbidden because it is too population dense. You then jerry-rig a kind-of mortar using a grenade launcher in order to explicitly defy this command without getting detected. You note that “it [is]n’t the most accurate system and [have] no idea if you ever killed an enemy mortar crew with it”, but sadly your training was insufficient to know that you would be putting childrens lives and limbs at undue risk?? And your reaction is basically 🤷???
Here’s a thought experiment: an american community starts to fight back against ICE with armed resistance. One of the ICE agents does the same thing, but years later decides to run as a dem candidate. What (if anything) does he have to do in order for you vote for him?
If afterwards he says he shouldn’t have been there and done that, is anti Israel, and his opponents are pro Israel and in the case of Susan Collins literally voted to send his ass and all the other thousands of troops there… Yeah probably. (edit: I guess for your hypothetical they would be a senator and primary challenger that’s pro ICE and the sitting senator is a rubber stamp for ICE funding increases and/or voted to create ICE)
My reaction is he wasn’t killing civilians for his own kicks and implies he’s exactly what I said, a stupid crayon eater.
If afterwards he says he shouldn’t have been there and done that
He says it was an ‘excellent experience’. He considered the ‘experience’ to be good enough to sign up several more times, including as a mercenary, and to then brag about it.
is anti Israel
Well, he isn’t. He’s even friends with zionists.
and his opponents are pro Israel and in the case of Susan Collins literally voted to send his ass and all the other thousands of troops there
She didn’t force him to sign up even once, let alone several times.
He also isn’t any better in terms of policies - he wants to strengthen the military.
My reaction is he wasn’t killing civilians for his own kicks
He has literally said that he had fun doing it and bragged about it.
If you went on top of the empire State building and threw multiple hand grenades on the street below, where white people could be walking, would you call that malicious? Or a terror attack? Can you see how him shelling a neighborhood where brown people live is similar? I’m not trying to be mean, but anyone who struggles to see how bad this is, might just have their ability to emphasize impaired by racism. It might not be their fault, people often absorb racists believes unconsciously or have a hard time extending the same amount of empathy, they would to white people to racialized people, if they rarely interact with them. People reading this, who suspect this might apply to them even in a limited way, should really take this to heart and try to reflect on their racist biases and ability to empathize.
He said he was firing at enemy mortar positions. You know, people shooting at them. They shouldn’t be there obviously but it’s a little different don’t you think?
The dude was using a makeshift mortar to fire at densely populated urban areas even though using mortars where forbidden because the amount of civilians that got murdered was to high even for the us army standards. At the absolute provable minimum he risked children getting killed or injured even after ordered not to do so
https://imgur.com/a/wY3l0Ki
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/e613vv/iraq_us_marines_in_ramadi_use_an_mk19_grenade/
Reading it, it seems more careless and stupid rather than malicious. But, I still didn’t know this before and I appreciate it.
How many levels of racist do you have to be to think shelling civilian areas with explosives is “stupid rather than malicious”?
If someone started firing grenade launchers into Maine would that be “stupid rather than malicious”?
He said he was firing at enemy mortar positions. You know, people shooting at them. They shouldn’t be there obviously but it’s a little different don’t you think?
Him having such enemies is a direct and very expected consequence of him signing up to torture, kill, and otherwise subjugate the people of Iraq and Afghanistan multiple times.
The only way you can think he had any right to retaliate in general is if you think that repeatedly signing up to torture, kill, and otherwise subjugate the people of Iraq and Afghanistan multiple times is perfectly okay.
I didn’t say any of those things and I don’t think that.
You were trying to excuse a USSian invader going around orders in order to fire explosives at civilians in the comment I replied to:
There’s a difference between accidentally running over someone and intentionally doing it. The effect is the same, the intent is not. I’m not saying he was good or righteous or morally correct or anything.
there’s a difference between accidents and negligently lobbing grenades in an enemies general direction while fighting in densely populated urban areas.
Contrary to what you are implying, one does not accidentally build a mortar, fire it at civilians, and then speak on forums about how awesome of an experience that was.
One also does not accidentally sign up multiple times to go torture and kill people in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Do you know how US military speak works?
So he tells this elaborate story only to leave out the one detail that he actually was doing it for fun and to kill civilians?
He posted on Reddit about how epic and fun it was. And how it was entirely inaccurate and he doesn’t know what it hit.
Ok so you get the order from higher ups that shelling this area is forbidden because it is too population dense. You then jerry-rig a kind-of mortar using a grenade launcher in order to explicitly defy this command without getting detected. You note that “it [is]n’t the most accurate system and [have] no idea if you ever killed an enemy mortar crew with it”, but sadly your training was insufficient to know that you would be putting childrens lives and limbs at undue risk?? And your reaction is basically 🤷???
Here’s a thought experiment: an american community starts to fight back against ICE with armed resistance. One of the ICE agents does the same thing, but years later decides to run as a dem candidate. What (if anything) does he have to do in order for you vote for him?
If afterwards he says he shouldn’t have been there and done that, is anti Israel, and his opponents are pro Israel and in the case of Susan Collins literally voted to send his ass and all the other thousands of troops there… Yeah probably. (edit: I guess for your hypothetical they would be a senator and primary challenger that’s pro ICE and the sitting senator is a rubber stamp for ICE funding increases and/or voted to create ICE)
My reaction is he wasn’t killing civilians for his own kicks and implies he’s exactly what I said, a stupid crayon eater.
He says it was an ‘excellent experience’. He considered the ‘experience’ to be good enough to sign up several more times, including as a mercenary, and to then brag about it.
Well, he isn’t. He’s even friends with zionists.
She didn’t force him to sign up even once, let alone several times.
He also isn’t any better in terms of policies - he wants to strengthen the military.
He has literally said that he had fun doing it and bragged about it.
Specifically defying lawful orders in order to commit bonus war crimes isn’t careless
If you went on top of the empire State building and threw multiple hand grenades on the street below, where white people could be walking, would you call that malicious? Or a terror attack? Can you see how him shelling a neighborhood where brown people live is similar? I’m not trying to be mean, but anyone who struggles to see how bad this is, might just have their ability to emphasize impaired by racism. It might not be their fault, people often absorb racists believes unconsciously or have a hard time extending the same amount of empathy, they would to white people to racialized people, if they rarely interact with them. People reading this, who suspect this might apply to them even in a limited way, should really take this to heart and try to reflect on their racist biases and ability to empathize.
He said he was firing at enemy mortar positions. You know, people shooting at them. They shouldn’t be there obviously but it’s a little different don’t you think?
No, it isn’t.
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