• Jason2357@lemmy.ca
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    3 days ago

    40 years of telling kids a degree is a job ticket rather than explaining the value of a liberal arts education.

    Every time I see k12 education discussion focused on “preparing kids for the job market” I cringe. Its the cart before the horse and just as agile.

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      To be fair, jobs and degree value is 90% regional. There are states with less degrees and states with more degrees. The PNW, for example, has a glut of Bachelors degrees, meaning your Bachelors will give you very little if any traction for jobs. Why would it when there’s double digits in those degrees applying for every 1 job requiring one? Many Midwest, flyover states do not. When there’s no one applying to those degrees positions and then That One Guy shows up, he’s almost guaranteed at least a try in that position.

      Sometimes you have to take your degree and move or it will hold little value. People don’t like to hear that, and that’s fair, but it’s also the reality.

      You’ll have a cheaper house, cheaper COL, and be very competitive in a job in a flyover state, but because you don’t want to leave the city of Seattle or its surrounding beauty, you stay and bitch about it instead. Or San Francisco. Or [next high COL/housing place]. No one really likes Ohio or the ass end of Illinois but there are both job openings and cheaper housing there.

      An in-law earned a safety degree. They could stay in their state for $80k or move to a degree bereft state, with cheaper houses even, for $125k. They moved, and on the company’s dime.

      Some of what’s happening here is based in the human principle of: I don’t wanna.. “Don’t wanna” rules the day most of the time.

      Don’t wanna keeps you in a crowded expensive place bitching about your finances.

      • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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        that is where most of the jobs are though, nobody wants to live in a rural area or a poor red states, they dont have jobs there at all. you will be hard pressed to find a tech job in misso/ohio that pays you 100-200k tech+job out of college where you can eaisly find one in seattle/cali,etc. you sound like a boomer conservative to be honest

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          I’ve not voted for a conservative president, ever. Xennial.

          Cities have more jobs by the numbers, yes, but do they have more job openings able to accommodate all the people in those cities?

          The main point is location matters with degrees.

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      3 days ago

      they mean the job market as the low-wage, medium wage jobs that supplies most of sectors. not the bougie white collar jobs. to the end they also dumb it down enough that people end up joining the military as cannon fodder.