The establishment/reinforcement of a (implicitly or explicitly gendered) sexual hierarchy where traits deemed feminine are the object of submission, degradation, domination, ridicule, and undermining of consent. These traits tend to be intentionally played up to have exactly those effects, as they are or become fetishes.
If all involved are men, the direct economic misogynistic relation is missing (systematic impoverishment of women, their casting into the role of sexual servitude, human sex trafficking overwhelmingly women victims), sure. Though indirectly it tends to be the same industry, the same companies.
To be clear I’m not kink shaming, I’m focusing on the ways in which misogyny exists in both the production and consumption of porn, and nobody is a bad person because they watched some random porn video.
The establishment/reinforcement of a (implicitly or explicitly gendered) sexual hierarchy where traits deemed feminine are the object of submission, degradation, domination, ridicule, and undermining of consent.
I hate these tropes enough that I have no desire to engage with porn that uses them, and despite this I have no shortage of suitable material, so I feel like “basically all” is doing a lot of lifting. Or maybe I’ve just surrounded myself so thoroughly by a tiny bubble that it looks a lot bigger to me than it is
I think it’s one of those things where misogyny is so deeply normalized that it can be easily missed even by those who are committed against misogyny. I’m not saying you personally necessarily missed it nor do I want to drag through your own habits, but if you did miss it you wouldn’t be the first - and still wouldn’t be a bad person for having done so. There is also an extent to which it can be relatively harmless compared to the more explicit examples, audiences, and cultures.
For an example in a different topic, consider the trope of BIPOC people getting killed off first in a movie. It implicitly devalues the lives of BIPOC people, a pervasive racist sentiment, but is every single film that has done it equally guilty of racism? Of course not. And it may even be a decision made for other reasons entirely or even as a critique of the idea or to mean something more deeply about the film itself (
spoiler: parts of a certain horror movie
like in Midsommar
). But we can still say that the trope, and how pervasive it is, demonstrates and perpetuates a deeper societal commitment to racism.
Not a question we can resolve conclusively since obviously I’m not gonna share my stuff here, but this is a genuinely interesting bit of cultural criticism.
What misogynist trappings and framings specifically does “basically all porn” adopt?
The establishment/reinforcement of a (implicitly or explicitly gendered) sexual hierarchy where traits deemed feminine are the object of submission, degradation, domination, ridicule, and undermining of consent. These traits tend to be intentionally played up to have exactly those effects, as they are or become fetishes.
If all involved are men, the direct economic misogynistic relation is missing (systematic impoverishment of women, their casting into the role of sexual servitude, human sex trafficking overwhelmingly women victims), sure. Though indirectly it tends to be the same industry, the same companies.
To be clear I’m not kink shaming, I’m focusing on the ways in which misogyny exists in both the production and consumption of porn, and nobody is a bad person because they watched some random porn video.
I hate these tropes enough that I have no desire to engage with porn that uses them, and despite this I have no shortage of suitable material, so I feel like “basically all” is doing a lot of lifting. Or maybe I’ve just surrounded myself so thoroughly by a tiny bubble that it looks a lot bigger to me than it is
I think it’s one of those things where misogyny is so deeply normalized that it can be easily missed even by those who are committed against misogyny. I’m not saying you personally necessarily missed it nor do I want to drag through your own habits, but if you did miss it you wouldn’t be the first - and still wouldn’t be a bad person for having done so. There is also an extent to which it can be relatively harmless compared to the more explicit examples, audiences, and cultures.
For an example in a different topic, consider the trope of BIPOC people getting killed off first in a movie. It implicitly devalues the lives of BIPOC people, a pervasive racist sentiment, but is every single film that has done it equally guilty of racism? Of course not. And it may even be a decision made for other reasons entirely or even as a critique of the idea or to mean something more deeply about the film itself (
spoiler: parts of a certain horror movie
like in Midsommar
). But we can still say that the trope, and how pervasive it is, demonstrates and perpetuates a deeper societal commitment to racism.
Not a question we can resolve conclusively since obviously I’m not gonna share my stuff here, but this is a genuinely interesting bit of cultural criticism.