what internship are you doing?
Stage 4: “I’m done. This isn’t worth it and I don’t actually NEED any of it! rm -rf / it all and wander silently off into the woods. Curl up on a mound of moss and watch all the things that bumble.”
When you spur of the moment decide to turn your gaming pc into a proxmox machine and then miss gaming so you end up down a rabbit hole of iommu groups to pass your Gpu through to a steam os VM to wrestle with Linux virtual display drivers so you can use sunshine to cast your games to your laptop
It eventually worked but you can quickly end up in a niche hell hole with little to no coherent documentation.
Trash guides is a gateway drug
Is it worth it after that’s all said and done?
I’d love to power gaming in my house from a central server, but I keep imagining that it would be spotty and frustrating as hell.
Game streaming is good, but not perfect. It’s useable, but you do get the occasional stutter, dropped frames, connection issues, etc. Not to mention increased input lag.
If you must have your PC in a different room, you’d be better off buying an optical hdmi cord. That’s what I do for gaming on my TV after playing a few games through various game streaming apps and getting fed up with it.
I’ve seen this idea a few times now. How do you get your controllers to connect? Say I want to keep my PC in the basement and have a TV on the second floor. How do I connect the controllers?
I’m not sure how the person you responded to did it, but LTT has a whole video series on doing just that from what I remember.
I run a USB to Ethernet adapter from my PC to living room TV along with a optical HDMI cable, I even have a second HDMI for when I want to run a second portable monitor on the couch arm rest for notes and stuff
I’ve done this a few ways:
Optical thunderbolt to thunderbolt dock… so the dock would be next to your tv and you plugin to the dock with whatever. This works amazingly well.
Game streaming over Ethernet - moonlight/sunshine do a great job, on a high quality network it’s not noticable. Only downside is they don’t forward microphone, so you end up doing some gymnastics to get microphone input.
Your mileage will vary some hardware has better support than others latency can be an issue on titles that are sensitive to it.
Rocket league is unplayable but survival craft games play really well!
The most straightforward approach to dabbling with it would be to install classicoldsongs Apollo on a windows machine it includes virtual display drivers that just work out the box, pair a moonlight client and see how it works for you!
Years ago, I used Moonlight to cast to an Nvidia Shield. It worked pretty well, although it still required a lot of back and forth to tinker with things on the host PC. Still, it was better than the Steam Link at the time. Recently, I tried using the built-in streaming in Steam to play on a different PC in the house, but it was much the same story: lots of back-and-forth, launchers were annoying, and sometimes it wouldn’t display on the right screen.
Maybe virtual machines would be an improvement.
Or you just spin up Games-On-Whales and have the same with almost no work!
Holy shit you just described my setup to a T
I converted my gaming machine into a server a while back. I like to live dangerously though, no proxmox. Baremetal. If my blog is slow, sorry y’all, I’m gaming. Deal with it.
You seem to have similar setup
Though for gaming I still use it mostly “directly”
Sunshine only when Im bored on work laptop
The VM still outputs to same display and has keyboard/mouse/etc. passedI’ve been happy with the setup for the last year and half or so
I’ve got 2 proxmox servers and I’d never have the courage to try that, seems hardcore as fuck
Ive been thinking about this for a while, but I imagined it could become hell on earth, thanks for the warning! It will keep the idea away from my head for another week or so
lol at ‘accidental’ beta testers. I tell my family they’re testing my shit
Isn’t that what they’re for?
I think I have reached stage 4: No hosting, off-site backup is on an external SSD in a locker at work
Stage 5 - you live in the woods and talk to a rock
2 and 3 are the same and you’re deluded if you think otherwise
The difference between 2nd and 3rd is about 24h
- I do this shit for money I ain’t going to do it for free. I’m not about to be the 24/7 unpaid on call for my families pagerduty rota. Paid cloud services for me
Me transition from stage 1 to stage 2, nervously.
Just wait till stage 4 - I’ve got a 12u server rack, separate 6u networking cabinet, 80+ containers running on multiple VMs managed by multiple Proxmox nodes and all my infrastructure is transitioning to OpenTofu and OpenBao so I can spin up new VMs, manage the containers with Komodo, etc and all managed with single sign on. I’ve got ~$12k sunk into my local AI server alone. I have like 2 active users besides myself…
I won’t lie. I’ve found myself peaking into corners of the house and thinking about where I’d install a proper rack. House just isn’t wired properly for it, though.
I had two separate 20 amp circuits ran into a closet and threw an exhaust fan to outside so I save on cooling costs. Where there’s a will there’s a way!
Fellow stage 4 self-hoster here. Time to start a support group.
Not to be rude but isn’t this just humble-bragging and a subset of Stage 3?
It’s a meme so… Sure? I’d say the jump is from commodity hardware and manual maintenance to enterprise hardware, infrastructure as code, and high availability. It’s a whole new level of pain in my opinion both in terms of mental fatigue and on my wallet
Fair enough. It feels like a difference in scale and not category, but I acknowledge that’s subjective.
The thing that I hate about self-hosting is that a lot of apps that could just be a plain offline thing are instead being designed to be super bloated server-docker things. Databases are not reasonably portable data formats.
Databases are not reasonably portable data formats.
I mean… if you stick to standard SQL…
An sqlite database is a perfectly fine portable data format.
Or, and apparently this is crazy these days - I can just use a file that’s in a format appropriate to what I’m trying to do, compatible with the simpler offline app it was made for, and then just use a more general purpose syncing method whether online or sneakernet if I need to do some kind of data transfer - as opposed to accumulating an ever expanding collection of server stacks that are just redundantly doing the same kind of thing anyway while needlessly adding an insane amount of attack surface.
SQLite allows for more efficient querying of data than doing it by hand, can enforce constraints on the data, and I can query it from my shell.
Of course it’s not going to replace a commonly-used format for a domain. If no such format exists, it’s a perfectly acceptable data format for data that’s tabular in nature. And it can by sync’d/backed up the same as any other file.
Only 27 containers? That rookie numbers… You gotta pump those up!
I’m currently sitting at 131 containers across 3 Kubernetes nodes, all bare-metal though, no virtualization.
131 containers seems crazy to me. How many actual services does that translate to? Is it actually closer to 50 services running in parallel on three different nodes for redundancy?
There’s probably also a fair amount of repeated servers that aren’t redundant. Like postgres servers that are single purpose and multiple containers to provide it for an “actual” service.
I just use flash drives to transfer stuff from my computer to the ipad so i can watch in bed lol, keep my music on an mp3 player
Surprisingly those dual-ended USB-A + USB-C flash drives can be pretty decent, especially for stuff like this.
it’s easier to wait like 5 minutes for files to transfer than to maintain a whole wireless streaming setup. i think of it like walking over to the video rental store lol
It’s a peaceful life.
Stage 4: code your own social network and run it on the ThinkPad under the stairs with a DB server in a wardrobe… Fight scrapers and spammers incessantly.
What scrapers and spammers? You’re the only user there.
LOOOOL
I’m in this meme and I don’t like it
ooo audiobookshelf don’t mind if I do
“Wow these R730/R740 ear destroying rack servers are super cheap on ebay”
No lie, they’re awesome. I’ve got two R720s, and they really aren’t bad. I leave one off. The other runs 4-5 VMs and doesn’t spin loud at all. Lack rack, surplus drives, a refurbed UPS and it just goes.
Had an R710 in my bedroom for a few years, do not recommend
I’m worried I don’t know if I’m 2 or 3
