what’s the end goal here Zohran. ‘Socialism’ (actually social democracy) but with a roving gang of armed and organized fascists that we just ignore? are we just going to kick the issue of systemic racism down the road because it’s “woke 1” to even talk about, until it becomes a powder keg again? this is the actual internal DSA white chauvinism contradiction that MSM are clawing to find but they won’t use it as a real wedge because it’d increase the salience of Defund again

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    Consistency on principle is of paramount importance, even and especially for a burgeoning social democratic movement. It is the only way it stays alive in the medium to long term, even if it causes difficulty in the short term.

    Mamdani should say what he thinks or say nothing at all. He shouldn’t say incorrect things or things counter to his principles.

    A party that shows consistency in its principles demonstrates that it has a clear vision, that they are reliable, and that they are not opportunist. All important traits to possess in a future unstable, revolutionary situation.

    Both Lenin (fight with the economist etc) and Marx/Engels (Gotha critique) had to figure this out too. Don’t compromise your actual principle and theory. Compromise on policy if needed, for practical reasons. But don’t concede the theoretical correctness while doing it!

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      It is the only way it stays alive in the medium to long term, even if it causes difficulty in the short term.

      True! I certainly have concerns that these next couple of years will be “as good as it gets” for US socialism, because the core principles aren’t always clear! I hope the messaging will get better defined before it’s too late (I think there’s still some time to get this straightened out).