Everyone is OBESSED with getting more, when we overproduce so much already. We don’t need more, everyone sites Marx and Lenin without ever talking about their contexts. Marx died in 18th century England and Lenin died in early 20th century Soviet Union, Lenin literally talked about problems of Taylorism in Enslavement of Man to Machine yet he chose it as a strategy and he chose to have stricter punishments for slight mistakes in factories not because Lenin was someone who believed in sacrificing those who live now to build a better future but because he saw that their hope for revolutions in Europe didn’t come true and now needed to rapidly industrialize, in the end Taylorism wasn’t the thing that led to it but Stalin’s methods. Today we don’t need that, we have already exhausted from 1970s, now how much more we, as humans, will extract from it?
Most of the main groups and figures in America for example, organisations like PSL, RCP USA, media figures which are socdems for everyone but by American standards they are sadly communists, they all support policies like preventing polluting data centers from popping up at home but their delegates abroad just talk about how they need Chinese level production at home like my guy China produces so much because it needs to keep up with America because otherwise it’ll be swallowed up by America. Chinese military budget is what it is because America will overthrow the CPC the moment it gets a single weak chance at this point, China produces so much because the whole imperial core turned it into their factory, America doesn’t need what China has because everything is to make sure America and its cronies can’t undermine the project. America as a country is already bloated enough, it doesn’t need anymore generally speaking, certain sectors like schools need funding which are deliberately withheld, there’s no scarcity of it.
okay maybe its the US context that i’m missing then. the parties and media here often have an eco-socialist perspective. Melanchon (LFI, french broad left party) being the most famous example. He has been criticising the Macron gov for not adressing the wildfires and has been promoting turning administrative divisions into bioregions etc etc. Jason Hickle is also extremely popular. You see a lot of red-green party coalitions (although they are usually not very radical). so from my EU point of view communists/marxists have been very keen on adressing ecology.
EDIT: for PSL, they do talk a lot about the climate crisis and how socialism is the only way to adress it, so im not sure where you are getting that they want infinite growth?
Yea French left is more eco-socialist, one of the only points I’ll ever give to the damned French, don’t mind it, French are just the worst. On PSL, I meant their home platform has many environmentalist policies but everything about America and American organizations just seems so insincere when none of the platforms follow any principled practice and everything is just extremely geared towards productivity, consumerism, production, and emitting as much green house gases as possible. Like America is one of the places that will genuinely lose by having socialism because it has too much from the world and no one country can have all that.