Everyone is OBESSED with getting more, when we overproduce so much already. We don’t need more, everyone sites Marx and Lenin without ever talking about their contexts. Marx died in 18th century England and Lenin died in early 20th century Soviet Union, Lenin literally talked about problems of Taylorism in Enslavement of Man to Machine yet he chose it as a strategy and he chose to have stricter punishments for slight mistakes in factories not because Lenin was someone who believed in sacrificing those who live now to build a better future but because he saw that their hope for revolutions in Europe didn’t come true and now needed to rapidly industrialize, in the end Taylorism wasn’t the thing that led to it but Stalin’s methods. Today we don’t need that, we have already exhausted from 1970s, now how much more we, as humans, will extract from it?


You mean the methods that beat the Nazis and resulted in the second-highest life expectancy increase in recorded history?
I think OP is arguing against Lenin’s NEP (with Taylorism) and for Stalins centralised planning
Ohhh, okay.
Yea those ones exactly, they were quite brutal but required for a threat like Nazi Germany. That era’s housing project still house poor people of former Soviet republics today.