That’s so true…
Wtf are you idiots talking about? What liberal has said use war profits for anything? Jesus the amount of stupid on this website is astounding.
The wealth of the US/euro empire is rooted in the exploitation of countries that are kept underdeveloped artificially through war or threats thereof. This is something that the liberals don’t want to change as the palestinian genocide for instance clearly demonstrate. Their platform is only about spreading the wealth (that has been gotten through those exploitative means) more “equitably” among the population of the empire. That’s what I mean by “war profits”.
The liberals be invents in his head.
You hear a lot of NATO liberals saying that the plunder from Africa, Asia, and elsewhere should go to welfare. This even happens on these sites.
You have to be living under a rock to not hear liberals day exactly that.
Give me a concrete example. I have never seen this, heard this, or known this.
People should care more about the people in their country than one across the world. American leftists should care about other American leftists MORE than a country across the world. Surely you don’t put fucking Gaza above YOU as a person! This is the stupidest fucking argument. If you don’t care about your own neighbor (let’s say they are just like you) then you don’t give a shit about Gaza. You need to help yourself before others. Come the fuck off it.
Unable to dedicate enough time to dissect particular examples, but, for example, places like lemmy.world are full of liberals who will tell you that NATO should keep going and maintain colonial subjugation of the Global South, but to provide its own people with better welfare.
I will be able to provide more examples later if that’s not enough.
Hearsay until I see it, I’ve never seen it myself.
I envy you if you have seriously never seen liberals say that both NATO and welfare are good.
Oh my God you’re soooo cool and totally brad pit in fight club
part of the reason why leftism is cool is that we are against the system, yeah.
Fun(?) Fact Fight Club was produced by Israeli billionaire Mossad agent Arnon Milchan
yikes
Oh wow, so what’s the other part?
there are many parts to it!
That’s not how it goes for Tyler Durden
tyler durden was “against the system”, in a different way.
A figment of a mentally illed corporate normie.
Government spending is not profit or loss.
The wealth of the US/euro empire is rooted in the exploitation of countries that are kept underdeveloped artificially through war or threats thereof. This is something that the liberals don’t want to change as the palestinian genocide for instance clearly demonstrate. Their platform is only about spreading the wealth (that has been gotten through those exploitative means) more “equitably” among the population of the empire. That’s what I mean by “war profits”.
2026: haha what profits the US military has literally spent ALL the money and blown through all of their weapons in order to cede control of the strait of hormuz, get their missile radars blown to shit by shahed drones, and abandon their military presence in southwest asia. the next move will be dismantling our meager health care and education systems to pay for a trade war with canada and a giant golden bitcoin bidet. chefs kiss
Dehumanization of the adversaries is not good. We have to be better than that.
Who invited Liberal Batman?
War profits for healthcare? How about stop allowing profit from healthcare, run them as services for the public good, and we already pay more than enough taxes to treat everyone.
fun fact: the US pays about $15K per capita, and the rest of the developed world pays about $4-8K for healthcare! the USA gets far less for far more. But freedom, yo!
The problem isn’t purely with what to do with a country’s wealth, but also where it comes from. Is it produced domestically, or does it come from exploiting others? Imperialist countries gain the bulk of their wealth from expropriating it from the global south. This is why welfare alone isn’t a viable solution, the question of socialism must also be addressed, ending imperialism and moving humanity forwards.
Imperialist countries gain the bulk of their wealth from expropriating it from the global south.
You got a study backing that up?
Check out the studies on “unequal exchange”. The most recent publication is https://www.iskrabooks.org/books/p/ue-past-present-future by Torkil Lauesen.
It is an analysis that accounts for the cost of European social democracy being borne by the over exploited world
@Cowbee
Already on my list to read! Would have considered recommending it if I had read it myself. Thanks!
Ok dope ty
I recommend reading through the article Five Characteristics of Neoimperialism.
Yeah, I think I remember you liking Lenin, I was just curious if you had like, an economic breakdown study or something showing the actual numbers instead of theory.
The article provides numbers, examples, and cites its sources. It was written in the 21st century as well, so this is relatively modern economic data. Please read the article, if I wanted you to understand how imperialism functions I would have recommended reading Lenin himself, rather than an article using Lenin’s understanding of imperialism as a base and elaborating on it with hard numbers.
You dare suggest something that is actually good for everyone? You monster!
“everyone”
Where does the euro/US wealth come from?
Not 100% sure, but the left one looks for more like a progressive, not a liberal.
And I don’t know about the right one, but conservatives aren’t MAGA either.The US has four types of monsters not two.
i think you are confusing what progressives and conservatives are.
democrats are not leftists. conservatives are fascists.
Boomer slop
What about this is boomer slop? It’s a little “enlightened centrist” (if you conflate liberals with the left, which let’s not get started), sure, but most boomers are depicted on the right panel, and at least 2 of the 3 background images are old memes so not slop
It isn’t centristic at all. It’s boomer slop because this meme style is the exact same stuff you’d find on a boomer facebook group or something. Especially with the angry woke SJW stereotype picture.
She’s not wrong, no reason to downvote her. The meme is actually based on a centrist facebook meme that I put a leftist twist on. It was used a lot as ragebait on reddit (not by me) and I thought it would be funny to repurpose it like this.
Agree to disagree I suppose. When I think of “boomer Facebook group” I don’t think of them casually criticizing the police state or militaristic profiteering, and when I think of “slop” I think of things that are lazily generated by AI.
I don’t see how you can say it isn’t at least trying to be a centrist meme when “liberals think x, conservatives think y, they’re both wrong and I’m a genius because I think z” is the oldest centrist meme template in the book
“The imperial core shouldn’t be getting any treats paid for by war crimes” is a pretty leftist take though, not a centrist one. I would imagine a centrist being more like “We should distribute money between those two while continuing to do war crimes.”.
I agree with your first paragraph as well, I’m just talking about the meme’s style. Slop doesn’t really need to be AI, just has to be really low quality.
we accept memes from all generations here bro
– but only if it’s based. :p
you disagree?
Yes
you’re not suave chico
Why?
