i can’t believe this exists

  • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    2 years ago

    Several! It’s literally the most common racial caricature of aboriginal people and Africans, hence my mentioning Birth of a Nation.

    the concept of a primitive society living in caves in a fantasy world is racist because if you squint you can make it look like nonsensical, false ideas about a disparate group of unconnected ethnicities

    This is just like if you asked 4chan to design a character named “the evil jew” and made your goblins look like that

    Literally mad that they use stone tools just lmao my god

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      [a concept] is racist because if you squint you can make it look like nonsensical, false ideas about a disparate group of unconnected ethnicities

      In a small way we’re making progress because the rhetorical knots you are tying yourself in are increasingly poor.

      nonsensical, false ideas

      Standard of a racial caricature, or do you think Jews are really greedy?

      about a disparate group of unconnected ethnicities

      They are not especially close genealogically, but they are socially quite connected as colonized first peoples

      Taking these things in mind, you question is if the depiction of goblins:

      is racist because if you squint you can make it look like [the racial caricatures] about [colonized first peoples]

      And suddenly the question is just the squinting part, i.e. “How similar is this to those caricatures?” which is what I’ve been trying to discuss, though you keep cherry picking individual elements when my argument is that it, like most caricatures, is a confluence of traits. It’s like if the defense in a stabbing case said “Yes, my client owns a knife, but so do many people. Are you going to convict him just for that?” “Yes, my client was at the park at the time of the attack. What? Is it illegal to visit the park? lmao” “Yes, my client was seen disposing of what may have been a pair of gloves. What? Do you propose that just taking out the trash makes them a killer? Is that really all you have?”

      Like, it’s inductive reasoning, not deductive reasoning. I am not proposing these elements in isolation.

      You can look at Dr. Stone and see primitive societies that aren’t racial stereotypes, even though one of them is indeed quite violent. That’s not what I’m saying and I think you know that’s not what I’m saying, which makes me wonder why you even bother. Are you that upset by criticism of this obviously sexist, racist shit that you think you can just string me along until I get bored of it and then you can enjoy your wholesome rape softporn and genocide series in peace? I’m going to keep re-explaining myself every time you mischaracterize me, so you’re going to need to develop a new coping strategy or just learn to wank while keeping your mouth shut. Do what you fucking want, but don’t piss on my head and tell me it’s raining.