- cross-posted to:
- antiwork@lemmit.online
- workreform@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- antiwork@lemmit.online
- workreform@lemmy.world
Drew Barrymore and Bill Maher are now not resuming their shows amid strikes.
Drew Barrymore and Bill Maher are now not resuming their shows amid strikes.
I never understood this view. What’s so terrible about not supporting people or things you don’t agree with? That’s what people should be doing.
It’s not about not supporting, it’s generating outrage online about stuff nobody cared about until the day before.
I’m all for not supporting people who don’t deserve it, I regularly do it too. But one thing is ignoring and another is actively harassing people for stuff they probably already forgot about.
Boycotting and harassing are two very different things, and “cancel culture” is a right-wing buzzword that conflates them.
Cancel culture is just a boycott that’s so effective, it’s disastrous to not at least compromise.
If you structure your life so you can be heavily impacted by cancel culture, you’re either a shitty person or surround yourself with shitty people.
Either way, it’s a win-win for everyone involved. They clearly don’t want to be together.
Most of the times I see the term in regards to people, not products/brands/companies, so I think the boycotting part is way less prevalent and rightfully called just “boycotting”.
I’ll admit I haven’t researched the origin of the term (and it’s probably on the same level as “woke” in number of different definitions), but to me it’s mostly about people saying or doing something “controversial” and getting harassed/ostracized for that.
And I say it’s terrible because when it affects fragile people, or generally people with a conscience, it works and ruins careers. When it’s towards ones like J.K. Rowling or Kanye West they just don’t care and keep working, making money like crazy while still being openly transphobic/racist.
Oh you mean like Critical Race Theory, Drag Shows, and getting vaccinated?
Uhh… yes? Are you trying to frame me as some sort of right-wing nutjob? People who complain online about Drag Shows and Vaccines are not okay in the head, but what does that have to do with the discussion?
What do examples of cancel culture being used for bad things have to do with cancel culture being bad?
Oh you meant people who get harassed because they complain about those things. I thought you were saying the opposite.
Well then no, it’s the opposite of what I was saying. Arguably everyone was on board with the fact that vaccines were good before covid, and then it became “controversial”. No one is getting “cancelled” because of a 10-year old tweet against vaccines, because if they tweeted that 10 years ago people would’ve already been angry at that time.
I’m talking specifically about the times a satirical thing from ages ago that no one cared about at the time gets dug up and ruins careers because if it was said now it would be problematic.
Ah, so nothing at all to do with what the article is about. You can see why people might have misunderstood right?
The person I replied to brought up the thematic of “cancel culture” as a whole, and I said what happened in the article was good. I get why people misunderstood but I think I was clear enough in my first comment in saying this is a (rare) instance where it achieved a good thing and I wasn’t talking about that.
This discussion aside, I’m genuinely curious how much you fight back on posts supporting right-wing views vs. cancel culture.
Something tells me you try way harder to fight against one than the other, and when you’re called out you just say, “oh yeah that other thing is bad too. Trust me guys.”
Uhh… I’m pretty left-leaning you know. 1 2 3 4 5
Just because I’m against cancel culture it doesn’t mean I’m right-leaning. Even Obama complained about it. I don’t think there’s a single American right-wing view I share (no, not even about cancel culture because they love doing it as well), and probably the only American politician I like is Bernie.
Take a look at my profile and see if you find anything similar to what you’re “accusing” me of, you really got the wrong person.
Kind of like the ‘f’ word? What about trans rights? Yeah, I remember when ‘nobody cared about that’ until, you know, they did.
We’re growing up as a species. You can choose to join us or get left behind.
You already have some catching up to do.
I don’t think anyone sane found jokes about Trans Rights funny 10 years ago, but yes, kind of like the ‘f’ word.
And what’s the point of “growing up” if mistakes of the past keep being brought up to you? No point in becoming a better person and supporting minorities if the one thing you said 10 years ago will still ruin your life sooner or later, right?