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        I’m liberal, but holy shit the division from that happening would make Obama and Trump seem like warmups

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          No… Don’t you see?

          No matter how centrist or moderate democratic candidate is, the Republicans call them communist, socialist pedophiles.

          They’ve painted themselves into a corner. We could nominate a full-on Marxist flag-burner, and they would have nothing left to say about them that they didn’t already say about Obama and Biden.

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            Let’s be fair, Nancy P is about as much a back slapping old school politician as you can get, and AOC fell in line to her leadership. AOC and the squad haven’t been as left as promised

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              AOC pulls the party to the left with her rhetoric, and then lends her support to strengthen the party as a whole.

              In this political environment, when the opposition is literally a fascist cult, it’s great that she’s being a team player.

              Also when she eventually does run for president, she won’t have alienated the party.

              She has handled it perfectly.

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          You say that like the person even matters. As long as there is a D next to their name the other side will act like the world is ending. Literally.

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          I am not an American, so I have to ask: Is AOC really that radical? To me she looks like a left leaning liberal with the most radical idea being MMT. Other then that it is normal talking points of a left leaning politican.

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            any other country would view AOC and Bernie as centrist at best – but our Overton window has shifted so far right that centrist is seen as full-on revolutionary communist …

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              I honestly thought they were some European style social democrat types, but then I looked up their climate policies and turns out Macron has actually passed more radical climate laws then the two of them are even proposing. It is insane how Americans believe that two politicans would be revolutionary communist, when a former investment banker turned neoliberal politican is more radical then them.

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              Where does the idea come from Bernie would be seen as a moderate outside of the US? He openly ran as a communist when he was a mayor. His policies are far to the left to any social-democratic party in Europe.

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          I’m liberal but the first thing that comes to mind about this advancement is something negative. I would prefer a negative peace, an absence of conflict, to a positive peace. I’m a liberal.