Some parts of the world needs a huge me too movement, something like a major complete revolution.
India has already had several MeToo-like movements (comparable in size and scope). Some people are even starting to turn to violence out of sheer desperation.
The problem there isn’t what goes on behind closed doors. They don’t even need to close the doors. They can do their shit in public and the only thing that will get anything done is nationwide protests, much like US cop killings against BMEs.
I fear you are right and that a revolution will be what finally tips the scales.
Do Indians not have fathers? I would be out for blood if someone raped my daughter, doesn’t matter if she is a full grown adult. I would be taking vengeance into my own hands.
It’s worse. There are cases of fathers preforming honor killings of the raped daughter.
In India, women are often blamed for any sexual assault they endure, at a systemic level. Cops will arrest you if you report it, and your father might well take vengeance into their own hands…against you, the victim.
The most likely person to rape a child is the father, followed by the brother, followed by the uncle/cousin/family friend.
Another peaceful revolution like the one from Mahatma Gandhi would be the best.
Why would that be best?
hummm… You do know who this guy is for India and this problem now is in that country right ?
I like non-violent revolutions. What’s on your mind ? Am I missing something ?Just wondering why you liking non-violent revolutions implies that this would be best for India. What’s your reasoning behind that ?
I don’t have an expertise in this domain and it’s more a hope based on past history.
So, no more comments here from me.Do you have something better ? if no, we will leave it at this.
Not in particular, just want to be making sure we’re all thinking critically rather than merely parroting middle school history
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I like how three people downvoted you, like what are they thinking, “no don’t be violent just get raped instead, much more civil”
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Those who make reform impossible make revolution necessary.
The US schoolsystems have been brainwashing that shit into the compliant masses for decades. Just look at how the civil rights movement is covered. All about MLK and peaceful marches, sit ins etc. They barely talk about the bombings, the black Panthers carrying guns, the violence constantly done to demonstrators. Push how peaceful it all was… Laughable.
Nothing changes without disruption. Sit ins have to be where you sit somewhere that messes with people’s ability to do business. Protests have to be disruptive. People need to have to push through picket lines and feel uncomfortable doing it. It’s easier for things to stay the same. So if you aren’t forceful about it, they will.
Public castrations would be more effective.
they probably wouldnt
Use of lethal force is a positive defense for homicide in all US states when one is under imminent threat of serious bodily injury and I am pretty sure rape falls under that. This law comes from common law so I wonder if India also inherited this from England?
There are some sick people in this world.
I don’t usually advocate for violence as a means of justice, especially with how overboard some people can go, but holy shit this guy needs to go to sleep and not wake up.
She was obviously asking for it dressed in those handcuffs. /s
She must be one irresistibly sexy child /S
Handcuffed and head stuck in the dryer is just too much to bear
How does a rape victim get raped again in the police station? And a child at that? This is too horrible. Fuck this. I had enough internet for today.
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It’s not just the men. Women too. I once dated a correctional officer, let me tell you, the things she was proud of were unreal.
Example, she and her cronies unlocked the door of a mentally disabled person. Because they were bored and wanted to make fun of him. She also gleefully spike about using riot gear on inmates.
Uttar Pradesh. That’s how.
By living in India.
WTF. Poor girl.
Gutter Pradesh is fucking wild. Regressive as fuck place. No amount of money would make me go there.
Crazy barbaric animals
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Uttar pradesh and lemmygrad have one thing in common. How easy it is to recognize them reliably.
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So : 1 year, 4 months & 15 days ago. I say you are right : this is 100% relevant.
Oftentimes I disagree with user’s voting. You deserve at least as many a upvotes as the hundred I got higher up here. Go figure !
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It’s obviously terrible and should never happen anywhere, but with 1,431,841,212 people living in the country, shit happens.
Still statistically worse for women than many countries.
Just to be clear for certain people:
This has probably happened in your country too. I can recall several American cases of officers abusing victims.
The question is whether this a systemic issue and whether the actions taken to address the injustice are enough.
You know, people on lemmy tend to accuse each other of being all kinds of things, but this is the first openly racist comment I’ve seen here
Just stop it with the racist card… Jesus. Shut up. So tired of this.
Seems like the moderators disagree with you, as the original comment was removed.
Lemmings: Casual racism is ok as long as it’s against Indian people 🤷
Generalising something isn’t the same as racism.
Saying “is there something wrong in their curry?” absolutely is racism, it ties a dish associated with a certain region of the world with an abhorrent crime.
Its the upbringing. The poverty there is not just financial poverty, it’s moral. Life in India is about the cruel exercise of power to benefit oneself. by dominating, subjugating, & mentally breaking the other Patriarchy, caste, religion all have the same aim so do their physical manifestations of abuse, domestic violence, rape, caste atrocities, and religious extremeism. This is common across India & to all Indians, irrespective of whether they’re rural/ urban, rich/ poor.
Rapists get the velvet glove treatment from their family, their community, the justice system, & even political parties, while rape victims & survivors get the iron fist. Victims are socially shunned & vilified by their community. Most of the time, their own families deny/ hide the rape because knowledge of it will bring shame the victim & her family. plus knowldge of rape will increase the dowry they’ll have to pay to her future husband’s family, because she’ll be “soiled/used”.
Its a food-chain, where the mighty abuse the small, the small abuse the smaller, the smaller abuse the … . And Dalit girls & women are the bottom of this food-chain. they face gender atrocities from the men & women of thei own family & their community, and they face caste atrocity from men and women of othercastes since every caste sees them as legitimate prey.
Socially rape is not treated as a crime, but as a matter of exercising right of the strong over the weak. Mothers lead in defend their rapist sons saying ‘boys will be boys.’, ‘its her fault for wearing what she was wearing/ doing what she was doing’, ‘its her fault, she tempted my son’. ‘girls from decent families don’t get raped, her family upbringing caused her rape’ , ‘what was she doing there at that time?’, ‘it was mutual, now shes lying to trap my son/ take revenge on my son/ save herself’. If she didn’t take the lead, her marital family & her husband will blame & abuse her for not raising her son right and for not supporting her own son.
The police behave the way society does, Law for them is a tool to exercise their power, to benefit themselves. Rape cases rarely come to light, when they do they rarely get registered, When the case gets registered, they rarely make it to our courts bcause the police ask the families to settle their ‘dispute’ or the rapists family files a counter case against the victim’s family to pressurise them to withdraw. Once the case is registered, the rapist gets taken to judicial custody for 15 days, and then they get released on bail. Once out on bail they, with the active support of their family & community & political leaders, terrorise the victim’s family to withdraw the case against them. The police might give them a slap on the wrist if the victim’s family complains.
When it does make it to our courts, years will have passed, the victim will not be willing to re-live her trauma due to the legit fear that the rapists’ lawyer will have her narrate the incident repeatedly with invasive and trauma-inducing questions in a court-room with her family and the rapist’s family & community as audience, The rapists’s counsel will try to get the case postponed many times, the judge will oblige. The rapis will change his counsel so the victim will be questioned again by the new lawyer , again in open court with an audience.
All this while, the victim & her family will be socially shunned & financially strained because of the lawyers fees & court fees.
If the rape trial finds the rapist guilty, he will after a short time in prison be granted bail/parole and will be free to terrorise the victim & her family. the rapist might even get early release.
If the rape is committed as an act of religious extremeism, then political parties wanting to woo the rapists commuity for votes, will welcome the rapist with garlands and give them pride of place in their public meetings. you can read up on the Bilkis Bano or the Ram Rahim case, if all this sounds made up.
