In an impassioned and at times furious speech, departing Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Mark Milley defiantly proclaimed that the US military does not swear an oath to a “wannabe dictator.”
It was a bitter and pointed swipe that appeared unmistakably targeted at former President Donald Trump, who has in recent days accused Milley of “treason” and suggested that he should be put to death for his conduct surrounding Trump’s bid in 2021 to remain in office despite losing the presidential election.
“We are unique among the world’s militaries,” Milley said. “We don’t take an oath to a country, we don’t take an oath to a tribe, we don’t take an oath to a religion. We don’t take an oath to a king, or a queen, or a tyrant or a dictator.”
You and the guy you replied to worded it so well. I am a moderate and an unaffiliated voter so noticing the extremes is easy. Their alignments are similar but their tactics are different. The right knows how to talk to the working class which is their strength. Anytime I have voiced criticism about the extremist left there is no conversation or willingness to learn, just demeaning redoric. Mainly how stupid I am or how I should kill myself. I don’t blame them as I was once very liberal myself but noticed the fallicies and became more moderate as I got older. Their inability to humble themselves or try to understand someone else’s thinking prevents them from really bringing anyone over to their side. It’s a “Holier Than Thou” complex that makes them believe they are better than everyone, know better than everyone, and those who oppose them are inheritly evil. Unfortunately this is not how you recruit allies and not how the world work in general.
While previous OP are articulate in their posts they are way off by a lot. Framing liberals as elitists is pure propaganda invented by hate radio. The real issue is millions of minds have been poisoned by conservative rhetoric which is patently false. Conservatives don’t know how to talk to the working class, they know how to stroke fear and division for political gain.
Your words about extremist lefties is a great example of the kind of nonsense the conservatives have gotten people to believe. You are essentially entering the conversation already pre-loaded with bullshit rhetoric. People who are intelligent about the issues are turned off by this and don’t want to engage with you other than to tell you off.
The problem isn’t with them it is you. You have already bought into the horseshit of hate media. You are intellectually dishonest without even knowing it. You are another casualty of the division which is exactly what these fuckers want.
The issue with your statement is I don’t listen to or follow political sides. I just make my own decernments based on what I experience. Most political statements via the news or social media are propaganda for both sides so you have to parse the information to find the truth and I am not waisting my time on that. I base what I say on my experiences and interactions with the people of each party. Republicans have their issues and so do Democrats.
You are exactly the person I described in my earlier writing. Unable to listen and learn because you are stuck in your thinking and unable to see outside your box. I hope the irony isn’t lost on you. My family growing up was Republican and I was Democrat when I got older but ultimately noticed they were both very flawed and decided to become centrist and unaffiliated for voting.
People who are “intelligent” about the issues fall in the same boat as you. Unable to see past their own hubris and Holier Than Thou thinking to see that they have fallen for their parties propaganda to see that they have been indoctrinated just like Republicans have. Republicans and Democrats are just two sides of the same coin.
People are calling you out on your shit because there is no “extremist left.” It’s a conservative talking point (that’s false by the way) that they always use. At most, Democrats are essentially less extreme conservatives right now.
There is, however, an extreme right that has passed all these in 2023 alone:
"Over 520 anti-LGBTQ+ bills have been introduced in state legislatures, a record;
Over 220 bills specifically target transgender and non-binary people, also a record."
https://www.hrc.org/press-releases/roundup-of-anti-lgbtq-legislation-advancing-in-states-across-the-country
You’re not seeing “both sides.” You are quite literally just lying. Democrats at current are the most boring and careful party ever right now. They aren’t my ideal but they definitely aren’t “teh extreme left.” Please.
First I didn’t say the right wasn’t extreme and the fact you can’t see extremism in your faction shows your blinded to the truth. There are extremes on both sides regardless of what propaganda you want to believe or not believe. People aren’t calling me out on my shit since it’s just “kill yourself” or “Your and idiot” as retorts. These are the “intelligent” people you speak of.
I didn’t start this as a way to convince you that your rose colored glasses are skewing your view or that your perception is wrong because that is your perception and honesty it isn’t worth the work to change it for some random person on the Internet because that never works.
I was saying my perception and experiences with the people of the Internet and some irl have led me to see that extremism exists on both sides.
I am going to stop replying because I have already spent too much time on someone who really isn’t worth it, that isn’t just you, it is all political social interactions on the Internet. So I will leave you with this.
Any faction is corrupt or corruptible. There will always be propaganda for each one to indoctrinate those who have some aligning beliefs. Hell I fell for it for years as a registered Democrat. There are people who mean well in their own way on each side and those who mean to use those well meaning people for their own ends. On the other hand there are people who just fight for the sake of fighting. The people make it matter but in my experience they are the ones that hurt it the most by repeating the propaganda like it’s the bible, on both sides. Know that these interactions are truly pointless and a waste of time.
I wish you the best in your endeavors.
First, you are full of shit. The problem is clearly you and you are probably just trolling at this point so my apologies for feeding you.
Two sides of the same coin is such a tired rhetoric at this point. To say I don’t pick sides while regurgitating conservative talking points is almost comical. Pretending to be a Democrat from a Republican household is another bullshit red flag. Do try improving your material in the future.