• PugJesus@kbin.social
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    The “So I hear” “as far as I’m aware” “lots of people are saying” shtick is old. The conservatives have beaten you to the abuse of that one. No one buys it anymore. Get new material.

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      Dawg I simply have no idea what I’m talking about, I was just saying what I’ve heard and expressing the actual popular sentiment that I’ve encountered among the very people being criticized? Are you dense? Not everyone is some political master mind out to get you

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        My guy, you frequent Hexbear. If you expect me to buy the “I’ve never heard any of this 🥺” routine, you’re out of luck.

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          Nono, I’ve heard of that tactic but it’s really as simple as “these people are saying this thing I dislike” and “no actually I hang out with those people and they usually say this actually”.

          I’ll be entirely clear yes I do read Marxist leninists theory, yes I do think communism is a political ideology that not only can work but can excel. However none of that means I know shit about the Russian Ukraine conflict nor does that mean I particularly believe either side is morally superior; currently my judgement is suspended until I learn more about it.

          It’s not that deep, I’m not boogie man, and don’t really care enough to be that subversive.

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            Nono, I’ve heard of that tactic but it’s really as simple as “these people are saying this thing I dislike” and “no actually I hang out with those people and they usually say this actually”.

            I monitor these people, and you can’t go ten seconds without them ranting about the US and the Imperial Core and Ukrainian Nazi Proxies.

            It’s not that deep, I’m not boogie man, and don’t really care enough to be that subversive.

            I’ve heard and seen way too many tankies over the year play innocent to be trusting. You come in saying “No, actually, this very obvious and apparent phenomenon isn’t something I’ve ever heard before”, you don’t get the benefit of the doubt, like conservatives who say “Well, I’ve never heard any of my conservative friends say anything BAD about LGBT folk”

            Theoretically possible, but unlikely.

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              Well if course you can’t go far without hearing about how terrible the US is, the US is very capitalist very imperialist and communist are very anti those lol. Idk what you expected. As for the information regarding Ukrainian Nazis, it can’t be denied that they exist and in excess (1 is too many imo) but I’m sure there is way more nuance to this war than I am aware of. All in all I really have not actually read much about the Ukraine conflict but war sucks, shits sucks to read, it’s depressing as fuck and I can’t do it that often.

              Also wdym you moniter them lol, what do you think you are? Some kind of fed?

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                Well if course you can’t go far without hearing about how terrible the US is

                This isn’t about people being against the US. It’s about people accusing the US for being the puppetmaster behind the war and the Ukrainian government.

                Also wdym you moniter them lol, what do you think you are? Some kind of fed?

                No, I’m someone who tries to keep up to date with pro-genocide propaganda, which Hexbear regurgitates at an astounding rate. ‘Know thy enemy’, and all that jazz.

                You know what, no, I am a fed. Fuck it. I could use the paycheck.