• Yote.zip
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    To be fair, anyone who actually cares is not on reddit anymore, so you’re seeing the worst of the worst takes.

    A lot of people on r/piracy are pirates by convenience, not by ethics. The sub being shut down is not convenient for them. It’s really sad to see how many people have the attention span of a goldfish, and can’t think beyond “this isn’t convenient for me today.”

      • @CheshireSnake@iusearchlinux.fyi
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        3110 months ago

        For me, at least, there are companies worth pirating stuff from. I don’t pretend to be ethical in any way, although I do avoid pirating from indie devs. It’s been a long while since I pirated anything, tbh. I just like the community here and it’s nice to keep up with the news.

        • @zxo@sopuli.xyz
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          710 months ago

          Exactly. I don’t pirate too much, I’m happy just playing my favorite video games (paid for because they are good) and talking in chat rooms, but if I wanted to play a Nintendo Game with friends I would 100% pirate it; it’s ethical in this case and I have really no other way to do it.

          • The Quuuuuill
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            310 months ago

            Especially their back catalog. Nintendo is sitting on tons of lost money for reasons I don’t really understand

            • @zxo@sopuli.xyz
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              210 months ago

              If they sold the old games still piracy rates would probably go down and they would get more money, so it would be pretty much a win-win for Nintendo. Or am I missing something?

              • The Quuuuuill
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                No, you’re right, and that’s absolutely what I’m saying. Presently, the only avenue if you want to relive the old Pokémon games is to steal them. That, if you ask me, is big dumb

                • @zxo@sopuli.xyz
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                  210 months ago

                  Ah, okay. Guess I’ll just keep pirating Nintendo games then, half because I hate Nintendo and half because it’s the only way to get them now.

      • Dog
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        Well I certainly don’t give a fuck about ethics so I just pirate cuz I want. And on that note I also use reddit sometimes because why not. I’m not here ideologically, just cuz it’s a nice place to be in. I like it here. I use lemmy more than Reddit nowadays. Reddit is a source of information and sometimes memes. Lemmy for the good place to be in.

    • @zxo@sopuli.xyz
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      910 months ago

      Some days I think “People can’t possibly be that dumb, right?” and them I’m let down every time, 'cause they are.

      Seems to apply to everything involving people.

    • @Azzu@discuss.tchncs.de
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      It’s important to note that the default state of people is being dumb. It takes effort, exposure and more qualities/circumstances during a person’s early years to not be dumb.

      Many people just didn’t grow up in an environment that allows that, it’s actually a quite specific one that doesn’t happen automatically.

      And once the early life phase is over, mental plasticity is a lot lower, so very very few people go from “dumb” to “not dumb”.

      If you want to be less dumb, I can really recommend https://lesswrong.com/rationality

  • redcalcium
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    What do you expect? All sensible people are probably already left the sub at this point, as evidenced by all those comments in the post you linked.

  • @comphys@lemmy.world
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    I feel like they don’t understand the point of the john oliver posts. Someone said it only turns the community to shit. Yeah, that is LITERALLY the reason so that people migrate away and turn reddit into a mess after spez’s decision. Oh, how quickly people forgot about the protest, spez was right.

    • @JshKlsn@lemmy.ml
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      2610 months ago

      My favourite are the comments of people saying “return the sub back to normal, this shit is stupid and isn’t doing anything! I don’t even use Apollo so I don’t care” - posted from Boost for Reddit.

      A lot of people don’t even understand. They genuinely think this only affects Apollo and that Christian is being a baby lol. Can’t wait to see their faces when their app stops working and they whine.

        • @JshKlsn@lemmy.ml
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          610 months ago

          Or they’ll feel stupid and try to pretend the official app is great.

          A year ago I tried using the official app because people would chat with me, and I would miss them. Lasted about 3 days before I couldn’t handle it anymore. It’s so bad.

          Now spez has deleted all my accounts and IP banned me, so I don’t even need to worry lmao.

      • @ScratchySoft@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        110 months ago

        I’ve seen someone unironically whine about how the mods were harming more users than Reddit mods. And of course, r/AskReddit’s pseudo-neutrality is infuriating.

    • @MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works
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      710 months ago

      to be fair what’s happening is the folks who didn’t jump ship are now the loudest voices. Good luck with that brain drain reddit

  • @jflorez@sh.itjust.works
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    6010 months ago

    People’s resistance to change is quite strong, even if they have good reason to leave and lemmy/fediverse are great alternatives the fact is that in terms of UX lemmy can be quite different and takes some time to find and rebuild a list of communities to join, specially since you can have the same community on different servers (i.e. technology on beehaw vs technology on lemmy.world) and just this fact means a learning curve for people that for the most part don’t like change.

    • @zxo@sopuli.xyz
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      For example, the NewPipe community on lemmy.ml is tiny and pretty much dead, whereas the Reddit one was much more active. Communities like that which have reopened might make people want to stay on Reddit, unfortunately.

    • wilberfan
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      110 months ago

      Laziness and the pull towards the familiar are powerful reinforcers of the status quo…

  • @Evkob@lemmy.ca
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    4710 months ago

    This is actually something I think might be concerning in the long run. Reddit’s current direction has driven away a contingent of users who tend to share similar moral values; Lemmy’s userbase tends pretty left with a lot of content here being anti-capitalist and pro-marginalized groups. It makes sense that decentralized federated networks would be attractive to those subsets of users.

    What I’m afraid of is that this will create a vacuum in which Reddit becomes even more of a breeding grounds for right-wing rhetoric and propaganda without the presence of these users to balance it out a bit. I know that as a Reddit-addicted teen, I hovered dangerously close to some pretty disgusting ideologies. Thankfully I discovered some leftist communities which expanded my narrow worldview and veered me to a much happier path. I don’t think reddit as a platform will die, but I fear those communities might, and I shudder to think at what reddit could become without them.

    • The Quuuuuill
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      1110 months ago

      There are always two things in combative balance when dealing with liberatory politics. They are the benefits of sticking around and having conversations about liberatory politics, and the costs of sticking around when there’s little to no productive discussion going on. Reddit, I do not believe, is currently in a place where anyone but the most anti-capitalist or anti-moderation advocates will believe that continued participation on the platform will remain beneficial. For me, I’m in the former super anti-capitalist group, and I no longer wish to provide monetary value to a platform that’s being run in a non-inclusive manner. I, however, am self-aware enough to realize I might be bailing from communities that could still benefit from discussion early, so I won’t hold it against anyone who still wants to stay there and keep fighting. Worth noting, the anti-capitalist and the anti-moderation free speech absolutist are not necessarily friends, and in fact probably aren’t.

      Anyway. The second position. The position where things are too far gone that the most beneficial thing to do is to leave and to advocate for leaving, and to advocate for external intervention. This is where I view Twitter as being. The benefit of staying on Twitter to keep it from becoming an alt-right echo chamber has evaporated, and the platform can no longer be saved from the abusive and exploitative owner and ownership group. By staying on Twitter, you are no longer helping guide conversations in a positive direction, you are only giving people a hook to keep them on a harmful platform.

      It’s hard, possibly impossible, to recognize where on the sliding scale of beneficial to stay and beneficial to leave any community is on. I don’t have a good sign-off for this. I guess all I have to say in conclusion is that it’s hard.

      • @zxo@sopuli.xyz
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        310 months ago

        Reddit just seems like it’s gone to shit recently, as I expected when they began killing 3rd party apps. But now that we have Lemmy, I don’t feel like I ever need to go back.

    • @BeardedHusband@lemmy.ml
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      110 months ago

      Yeah I don’t really think left nor right should be thrown in the mix. I don’t “reddit” much at all, but I’m def more right than I am left. I think it’s quite out of touch to believe Reddit is just right wing and is gonna get flooded with even more right wing people. In my experience I’ve seen more left wing on reddit. Maybe that’s just me. Or maybe our definitions of what really is right wing and left wing are a bit different. Idc much either way as long as I can see what I want online.

      • UnruffledM
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        210 months ago

        Just before this gets too off topic, please remember this is c/piracy, not c/politics. Any further political posts will get removed.

  • @Ketchup@lemmy.world
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    4610 months ago

    It’s instetesting for the subject of Piracy in particular. Participating in obtaining digital goods has most often been a “take it or leave it” standard. You’ve always had to “go where the action is” if not desperately trying to get invited ( Demonoid era).

    They will come to their senses when they need there warez as they always do.

  • @Wander@yiffit.net
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    3810 months ago

    It’s like BitTorrent. There’s seeders and then there’s leechers who just want their free stuff and stop sharing immediately afterwards.

    Some have more principle than others.

    • @JshKlsn@lemmy.ml
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      3210 months ago

      I think you mean there are Lemmy users (qbittorrent) and Reddit users (utorrent).

      Can’t convince them what they’re using is bad and that there are better alternatives.

      • @zxo@sopuli.xyz
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        1010 months ago

        Still can’t believe people use uTorrent even though it became malware so long ago. Like come on guys, really? There are a ton of way better clients like qBit and Transmission, and they are just stuck in their own ways to their detriment.

        • @JshKlsn@lemmy.ml
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          1210 months ago

          I think the craziest part is those who know, so they stay on a “safe” version released in 2010…

          Nothing like using a 13 year old piece of software despite there being way better up to date alternatives.

          • @zxo@sopuli.xyz
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            610 months ago

            Okay, that’s just crazy. I have been beginning to suspect people are a lot dumber than I originally thought, and this helps confirm that.

        • @ppp
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          310 months ago

          I have friends who still default to utorrent. Every time I see their desktops with utorrent in the taskbar, I let out an audible WTF and show them the light (qBittorrent).

    • @ScratchySoft@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      I’m not sure I’m able to seed, unfortunately. College network doesn’t seem to like port forwarding, and Mullvad disabled port forwarding recently. That and I don’t have a lot of storage space and I’m worried about getting a scary letter from my ISP. At least the scene I’m in is more DDL-based than torrent-based. Makes things easier.

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    /r/Piracy

    That’s not the real games piracy sub anyways. The true successor of the scene-watching community is and always was /r/CrackWatch and even there people are very aware that they’re not contributors, just spectators. So basically, it was a place for movies piracy, and movies piracy is and always been the most piss easy, top result on google piracy around. I haven’t gone on a single website to pirate movies in a decade, shit is all searchable either directly on qBit and deluge or on tracker tools.

    They don’t want to come over, so what? They’re irrelevant. A wiki service reddit, barely anything else. A place for people who unironically install uTorrent and don’t even know what the u stands for.

    • @JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.ee
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      Sorry to hear that, but I’m guessing that might be related to your specific instance. So far I’m really happy with mine, but some are evidently struggling to keep up with the influx of Rexxiters. (and bots, maybe?)

      Anyway, nothing preventing you from hitting the Fediverse from a different instance, yeah?

    • Domille
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      710 months ago

      Come join the rest of us sh.itheads on sh.itjust.works!

    • epicspongee [they/them or he/him]
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      310 months ago

      True. This should get better over time though! There’s not a lot of optimistic UI in Remmy and that causes the app to feel a lot slower. There’s a lot of PRs up rn to improve the frontend so maybe something will make it in soon!

    • @drdrago1337@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      210 months ago

      I haven’t been able to upvote a post in a few days.

      Every one just sits there for 60s then:

      SyntaxError: Unexpected token '<', "<html>
      <h"... is not valid JSON
      
    • @Krompus@lemmy.world
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      010 months ago

      I’ve not had any issues? Try another instance, Lemmy.world is very popular and works well.

      • maybe
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        110 months ago

        I’m having lag on lemmy.world. Sometimes just spins for 5+ minutes just to upvote. Sometimes posts won’t create at all, just spins and spins.