• dangblingus@lemmy.world
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    If nothing else, this terrible unnecessary war has shown the West’s cognitive dissonance.

    Hardcore right wing people generally hate Jewish people, unless the Jewish people are fighting Muslim people, then it’s “Jewish people have the right to self-determination!”

    People on the left generally do not hate any specific ethnic group, however, we have a long history of criticizing Israel for their apartheid. Being met with the furor of everyone else calling us anti-semites is nothing new, but never has it come so forcefully from so many people all at once.

    Moderates in the center aren’t speaking out at all for fear of being called anti-semitic, maintaining international relations with a nuclear power, and secretly hoping that this takes attention away from the climate crisis so we can keep going business as usual in favor of the ruling class.

    More important than the cognitive dissonance though, is the fact that everyone in the West believes their opinion is the best and will solve everything.

    • Bernie Ecclestoned@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      Yeah, after watching the siege of Mariupol and the destruction of civilian infrastructure by Putin, it’s kinda hard to defend the same actions, whatever the provocation, by Bibi

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        If Putin did 1/100 of what Israel did/are doing right now, the war would have been terminated months ago.

        OH and by the way, Russia is fighting a real army with logistic/intel support from the West.

        Don’t compare them to your shitty cowards which is also benefiting of logistic support.

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            not you, Bernie. I was talking about the shitty entity in the middle east who is killing childen, women behind their joystick.

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                fuck it. RIGHT NOW I don’t give a damn about what Hamas did or are going to do. Keep your fake humanist rhetoric or wisdom from book “oh but you fall in the trap of…”, F U C K I T! They bombed one of the few fucking remaining hospitals in state. This is not an artillery margin error, this was dedicated!

                Israel went far beyond the limit and they play straight, no Hamas masterplan or a six advanced moves. Israel does not care, they massacre plain straight and with a giant fuck off to the rest of the planet.

                Just nope.

                • Bernie Ecclestoned@sh.itjust.worksOP
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                  Apparently that hospital was a misfired rocket from Gaza… if that turns out to be true, I’ll await your condemnation of whichever Islamist cunts did it

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                    Even if it was fired from Gaza, they will again simply say that’s Israel’s fault. When you have already established the black-and-white narrative, everything goes.

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                  RIGHT NOW I don’t give a damn about what Hamas did or are going to do

                  Well something is wrong with you because you should. Hamas is controlling the whole Gaza and doesn’t care about the future of their people.

                  The hospital too. There are video and photo evidence, it was not bombed by Israel.

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      Anti-semitic my ass. I know jewish people that are openly open about their retarded leaders.

      Jewish people out of all people should understand why genocide is not acceptable. A bunch of old power hungry people are responsible for hundreds of thousands of people being killed or displaced. That’s what God wants, amiright?

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        If it was genocide, why warn the people and offer humanitarian aid in the south of Gaza? Why no attacks on the Westbank? Why did they wait until Hamas attacked (again)? Why were Palestinians part of the population in Israel?

        Israel certainly doesn’t respect the border to Palestinian land, but to call it genocide sounds a lot like a propaganda tool. Especially when it comes from people who ignore that Palestinians and especially the Hamas and other extremist groups in Palestine declared they want a genocide on all Jews. And this even predates the separation.

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          Not anymore. They may slaughter innocent people in Gaza right now but the tide is shifting. People all over the world are fed up with their bullshit. You cannot commit war crimes 24/7 and after that lecture others about terrorism.

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          Yes. Definitely better than closely open

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      You are also called and Islamophobe if you aren’t taking a stand against all of Israel in this.

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      It’s fine… when Russia does landgrabs and “settles” in parts of Ukraine it’s called ethnic cleansing, genocide, illegal war, yada yada.

      When Israel does it it’s just a right to self determination and if you disagree with that then you must be an antisemite nazi.