As lawmakers around the world weigh bans of 'forever chemicals,” many manufacturers are pushing back, saying there often is no substitute.

As lawmakers around the world weigh bans of 'forever chemicals,” many manufacturers are pushing back, saying there often is no substitute.

  • Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world
    29·
    2 years ago

    Also back then, we didn’t have massive populations. Most of the world struggled to survive. Finding food was a all-day activity. Should we go back to that?

    • iegod@lemm.ee
      13·
      2 years ago

      Without the haber process modern civilization could not be sustained. We cannot go back without massive population losses. Dunno about you but I’m not picking which of my friends and family aren’t important.

    • Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin@lemm.ee
      9·
      2 years ago

      Cancer causing materials are not a necessity to support global scale populations.

      Also, I frankly wouldn’t mind returning to a world where almost half my time was my own and not my employer’s.

      • SaltySalamander@kbin.social
        2·
        2 years ago

        Also, I frankly wouldn’t mind returning to a world where almost half my time was my own and not my employer’s.

        It still wouldn’t actually be your own. You currently work to afford your lifestyle. You’d still work the same amount, probably more, but you certainly wouldn’t have your current lifestyle.

      • Haywire@lemm.ee
        1·
        2 years ago

        You can have that today. You can still forage for food. It is even easier today.

    • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
      9·
      2 years ago

      So, but we don’t need cancerous materials to do so. If you missed it, that was the point

    • TigrisMorte@kbin.social
      1·
      2 years ago

      What a wonderfully unrelated to my post comment you’ve made. Since you are so kind as to make up what you want to argue against, perhaps you won’t mind making up the response so those of us on topic can get on with discussing that topic.

    • deaf_fish@lemm.ee
      1·
      2 years ago

      So we lose non-stick pans, how does that make us return to a hunter gatherer society?

        • deaf_fish@lemm.ee
          1·
          2 years ago

          What? This stuff is in soaps and plastics? Wow this stuff is everywhere.

          Is this list all products effected or the products that have no known replacement?

            • deaf_fish@lemm.ee
              1·
              2 years ago

              Well, then I don’t think it makes sense for an immediate blanket ban on it.

              I suspect the best path forward is to set maximum limits and slowly adjust those down over time. I really don’t think we want to continue to be inundated with carcinogens.

      • Richard@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        2 years ago

        Maybe consider for once that these compounds are not only used for pans, but also for other applications, like electronics?

        • deaf_fish@lemm.ee
          1·
          2 years ago

          I wasnt aware the laws were targeting electronics. Are we talking all electronics or just some?