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  • diprount_tomato@lemmy.world
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    No, I’m not saying anarchism wouldn’t work, I’m just saying it’s impossible to keep our current technology (again, how do you fucking keep production lines?)

    You also trust too much on humanity

    Anarcho-primitivists are the only honest anarchists

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      I’m just saying it’s impossible to keep our current technology

      Why?

      (again, how do you fucking keep production lines?)

      I’ve already answered that. Now explain why my answer is insufficient - you haven’t. All you’ve done is say I’m wrong, without telling me what the actual answer is. This tells me you don’t have an answer.

      What would stop people working on the production of society?

      You also trust too much on humanity

      Lol, nope. I have little faith in humanity. But I’ve seen enough evidence to understand that humans placed in a society where they have to fight to survive, will only be motivated by survival.

      Oh right - that’s our current society.

      However, placed in an environment when their survival is already taken care of, they will instead prioritise what they actually want to do. Ever met a person who said “I wanna be a doctor”? How about “I wanna be a vet”? These desires already exist, but they are not catered to.

      What speaks to me of “too much trust” is you, expecting our competitive, capitalist market economy to give people what they need, and present them with the opportunities they want. That’s fucking magical thinking.

      Anarcho-primitivists are the only honest anarchists

      Oh, please, Tyler Durden. Anarcho-primitivism is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. The technology and infrastructure for feeding and powering the world already exists - we use it every day! The only problem is that this infrastructure is in private hands. If it were managed by the people directly, it would be far more efficient, instead of being weighed down by the bureaucracy of marketisation.

      Now, please. This is your final chance to have an honest conversation with me. Actually respond to my points or I sincerely promise, I will block you. You ave, up to this point, ignored everything I’ve said to simply talk over me and say I’m wrong with no explanations, sources, or reasons why. This is not debate, this is you waiting to be called correct, or for me to give up.

      SO… back on topic.

      1. Why is he trying to steal things he already has?
      2. Why would nobody else help?
      3. Why is a state needed here? Wouldn’t diffuse sanctions work?
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            No, I’m clearly incapable of proving an anarchist wrong, not because they’re right, but because it’s impossible to convince quasi-religious fanatics

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              I already told you I’m not an anarchist. Try paying attention.

              Also, what happened to your horseshoe theory? Remember that you said anarchists are just like Nazis? Why are you now saying it’s just a “wonderland” with nothing holding people down? Can’t you be consistent with the reason you’re against it?

              The same thing happened that always happens:

              A: Leftism doesn’t work! It’s too authoritarian!!

              B: Actually, it requires zero authority.

              A: Leftism is too soft! It has no authority! It will never work!

              So - which one is it? Gangs of thugs beating people up a la Nazis, or is it too diffuse and has too little authority?


              So, if it’s like religion, tell me - what are its doctrines? What are the commandments, what is the dogma?

              This is getting so annoying. You make a point, I respond to it, then you ignore my response and say something irrelevant. Why should I take you seriously at all?

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                  Jfc ok I’ll sum it up for your dumb ass that can’t read more than 5 words at once:

                  You have dismissed anarchism as being both too authoritarian, AND too soft. It can’t be both.

                  Also, if anarchism is dogmatic, what are its strict rules?

                  Lastly, stop just ignoring my points and pretending like you’re making arguments that way.