• dohpaz42@lemmy.world
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    I hope you don’t live in America. You know, the country literally built by immigrants, who stole the land from the natives, and then also raped and killed a lot of them. That’d be pretty hypocritical and ignorant of you if you were an American.

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      As stated in another comment, we conquered. All in all it’s hard to find a single country out there not built that way. And lots of immigrants is not lots of illegal aliens. If you want to come in you should have to follow the same rules. Otherwise don’t complain if you get deported.

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            Yeah, I give individuals leeway when it comes to breaking the “law” because they’re often just trying to survive.

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                Having “law enforcement” rife with literal gangs, selectively enforcing the laws, and writing laws that benefit a few wealthy individuals at the expense of everyone else is how you create people who don’t respect your imaginary made up bullshit laws.

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                  The cops don’t make the laws, they just enforce the ones written by the people we elect. Don’t like it? Get elected and change it.

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                    Overall, cops tend to selectively enforce laws mainly against poor people, and do fuck-all about corruption and psychopathy in their own ranks. They’re trained to be trigger-happy schizophrenics with a fetish for authority, and taught that it is ok and desirable to defend that insecure god image at all costs, including others’ dignity, rights, and even lives. Basic social norms of respect don’t even make it to the conversation.

                    Saying cops don’t make the law is as facetious as saying the supreme court doesn’t. They technically don’t, but they do get to decide when and how to enforce them, if at all. Very ripe for the corruption we’ve actually been seeing.

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                Good.

                Fuck the “law”, a set of rules designed to keep the power of the elites at the people’s expense.

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                  And who decides the good law and the bad law? The only ones allowed to do that are the courts, not the court of public opinion. Not to mention yours is not a popular opinion.

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                    Yes exactly.

                    The courts and the laws they create are by a class of people untouchable to us. They are laws to rule us, not for us to live.

                    The law is not for the people and should not be respected.

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        It’s a shame we can’t deport people like you. Surely that’d make room for more immigrants to come in legally.

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        They arent immigrants, then. Theyre micro conquerors.

        And hey! They dont rape, murder, and pillage to get their land! So theyre already better than you.

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        You say that as if conquest isn’t vastly worse than demographic migration.

        You’re literally trying to justify why Americans should get to stay by pointing out that they are even less deserving for having arrived by force instead of by mere migration.