I don’t have much of a problem either way as I don’t think I’ll be engaging in political discussion on this website past this post but it seems like any sort of non-left wing opinions or posts are immediately trashed on here. That’s fine. There’s clearly a more liberal audience here and that’s okay. I just don’t want Lemmy to become a echo chamber for any side and it seems to be that way when it comes to politics already.
Mostly making this post just to drum up discussion as I’m new here.
Have you studied any of these yourself? Or are you relying on characterizations of them you heard in media?
In theory, sure. But in practice it often gets used as a rug to sweep racism under.
Keep on mind this is a society where certain groups have been marginalized and terrorized for decades or even centuries. “Elevating” them is only a reaction to that long-entrenched bigotry. But (what’s that quote?..) when you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression. Attempting to bring historically marginalized groups into equal footing with mainstream groups probably will look like they’re being “elevated” to the people who enjoy the privilege of being accepted broadly by default.
Yes, I have a Ph.D., you will encounter grievance studies and post modern ideologies when you pursue this path. I have indeed studied the philosophical foundations of these ideologies. I don’t agree with post modern ideologies, nor do I agree that you can state that something is purely constructed by a culture. An individual is defined both by their physiology and their societal structure. It’s physiology and culture. Post modernism denies objective truth. I believe in objective truth. I also believe in intentionality, which post modernism denies. We could go on. Stop using the “have you actually studied this” argument and actually engage in productive debate. An appeal to academic authority is really not useful here.
It seems some forget, for instance, that the native population of America benefitted greatly from their encounters with colonial people from France and Britain. They sold and traded items. They learned knew technologies. Hell, many native tribes fought alongside the Americans during the American revolution. They also fought alongside France. The whole situation of the American colonies is really messy. Anyway, colonialism is not a black and white issue.
ah, yes, the minimum of 30 million people killed just in the Americas really benefited. get out of here with this settler colonialist apologia, my dude. you are a textbook case of why nobody is interested in hearing out conservative “thought”, which appears to be impossibly tied to being pro-genocide.
Either you’re the stupidest person who has ever received a PhD in the world, or you’re a fucking liar. There’s absolutely no god damned way that you can hold this many imbecilic, counter-to-reality views while having had to engage with primary sources for the multiple years it took to achieve a PhD. Stop lying, seriously. Nobody buys your bullshit anyway.
Okay. Hyperbole much? I wrote some arguments. You didn’t counter any of them. You simply wrote an inflammatory post. I’m not mad at you, I’m just debating you. It’s fine if you don’t want to debate. But whatever the case, there is no need to throw insults at random internet people. Might as well assume the best and engage positively. It’s a new community here. I know internet flame wars are fun, but I think we should move beyond that.
So you’re telling me that you’re not lying about the PhD? Is that really what you’re saying? You’re trying to make me believe that you went through probably 7 years or more of schooling, and you hold the opinions that Native Americans on the whole benefited from contact with Europeans, that we should all just pretend like racism doesn’t exist, and that learning about race and gender somehow “erod[es] many useful and productive enlightenment ideas”? I honestly have no idea how you have the gall to tell bald-faced lies and get flustered when people are angry at you because of it.