Israel’s military has claimed it has encircled Gaza City and divided the besieged coastal strip into two, as Gaza came under its third total communications outage since the start of the war.

“Today, there is north Gaza and south Gaza,” Israeli army spokesman Daniel Hagari told reporters on Sunday, calling it a “significant stage” in Israel’s war against Hamas.

Israeli media reported that troops are expected to enter Gaza City within 48 hours. Strong explosions were seen in northern Gaza after nightfall.

But the “collapse in connectivity” across Gaza reported by internet access advocacy group NetBlocks.org and confirmed by the Palestinian telecom company Paltel made it even more complicated to convey details of the new stage of the military offensive.

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    That said, maybe a single state solution will be the best form of government, as long as Palestinians, Jewish Israelis, and other groups are guaranteed equal rights. The half-ass “two state” attempt right now isn’t working.

    I guarantee, if they actually offered that nobody would complain. But they won’t, to “preserve Israel’s Jewish character”. See: Their rejection of Palestinian right of return.

    Hell, if they were willing to do that Israel wouldn’t exist and we’d just have had a unified Palestine in 1948.

    They want to keep Gaza and the West Bank under military rule until they can fully depopulate them and create Lebensraum.

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      you’re ignoring the fact that the Palestinian Arabs do not want a two state solution, and the majority of them want to genocide the Jews.

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        Uh… The PLO had a lot of national support for a hot minute there, until Netenyahu just up and shut down the Oslo accords. That’s what made terror as popular in Palestine as it is now; there’s simply no other means of resistance left to them.

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          You mean the PLO who’s second charter was:

          “Palestine, with the boundaries it had during the British mandate, is an indivisible territorial unit”

          They weren’t exactly fans of a two state solution either.

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        so where do you get this from exactly? because the PA has been working toward a two-state solution, while the Israeli government has been strengthening Hamas to undermine the PA’s attempt at getting a two-state solution passed, and yes, Netanyahu has said this openly, for years

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          The Palestinian’s under the PLO had a charter to completely reject any two state solution until 1994, and two state negotiations barely lasted a couple years before violence broke out again.

          So no, the Palestinian Arabs do not, and have never wanted a two state solution.

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            yet the PLO was dissolved and replaces by the PA in accordance with the Camp David agreements, of course Israel conveniently forgot they existed, so for about 10 years the Palestinians tried to do the whole peaceful negotiation bit, and got jack shit, until a terror group backed by Bibi won the civil war in Gaza, putting an end to the negotiations entirely.

            so I ask if the Palestinians when’t interested in a two-state solution, where is the PLO?

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              The PA also did not want a two state solution, they wanted a one state solution that they controlled.

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                what exactly are you talking about? are you just repeating stuff you heard that matches your notion of “all Muslims are evil and want to kill jews”?

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                  None of their negotiations gave Jews a right to the land. And Palestinians tried a total of 2 years of peaceful negotiations, not 10.

                  And no, not all Muslims are bad, but the leadership in Palestine and Israel have never wanted the other religion to exercise any control in the region, and pretending Palestinians are completely innocent is idiotic.

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                    ok, so first off, what exactly are you basing your “worked towards a two-state solution” on? because it definitely has nothing to do with any of the treaties or actions to radicalize said treaties by the Palestinian people.

                    And through your ignorance, purposeful or not, you straight up lie about the Palestinian government’s attempts at a two-state solution, fucking Netanyahu literally supported Hamas to undermine the two state efforts of the PA, what you claim just doesn’t match with any facts.

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            So I won’t actually respond to this moron, but if anybody else wants to know why what they’re saying is completely wrong reply to me.

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              Because you’re a moron, I see.

              Palestinians want to control the land, and most want to expel the Jews. That has been the case since the founding of Israel. Sorry you’re blind to that.

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        The onion did a bit about ten years ago on the Palestine-Israel conflict, reporting:

        “Israeli and Palestine leaders have shown they see eye to eye in nearly every facet of the proposed solution, including such provisions as: seizing all territory, watching the opposition burn in righteous fire, and building a unified nation on the corpses of their enemy. Yet, they still haven’t come any closer to putting a stop to the conflict”

        Kind of sums it up.

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          For most of the time Israel has existed the Palestinian stance has been a one state under Palestine without Jews. They didn’t want a secular democracy, they wanted to get rid of the Jews.

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              Of course it had Jews, long before it had Muslims. Doesn’t change that the majority of Palestinian Arabs want to get rid of the Jews.

              And we’re talking about the area since the formation of Israel.

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                Doesn’t change that the majority of Palestinian Arabs want to get rid of the Jews.

                Bruh Jews and Muslims have lived together for 1400 years what are you even on about?

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                  And since 1948 the Arab Muslims of the region have had a mandate to expel the Jews from Israel. What happened in the previous thousand years does not matter.