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      No. Even IF that’s true (again, enormous if), the war crime is definitely the bombing of civilians, not hiding from people who want to kill you. I’m not saying that the Hamas aren’t heinous terrorists, but that doesn’t excuse the wholesale slaughter of innocents.

      Especially since it only INCREASES hostilities, leading to more civilian deaths on both sides of the border.

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          That’s not what they’re doing, though. And even if they were, that would still NOT excuse the war crimes of the IDF.

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              This response is the equivalent of a child saying nuh uh and walking off.

              You want me to elaborate about how false what you’re saying is? Walking off rather than continuing to waste my time and effort on the likes of you sounds tempting, though.

              Also, no one said that it did excuse the war crimes committed by the IDF

              That’s not true. You heavily implied as much and the other apartheid defender flat out said so.

              The problem I have is that you’re clearly misrepresenting Hamas as innocent.

              I’m doing no such thing. I’m always clear about the fact that Hamas are heinous terrorists guilty of atrocities.

              That doesn’t justify any of IDF’s atrocities like you’re pretending that you’re not implying, though.

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        Hiding isn’t a war crime. Trying to blend in with a civilian population while you’re an active combatant, however, is. Precisely because it makes strikes with mass civilian casualties a military necessity.

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          First of all, no it isn’t. Second of all, nobody’s forcing the IDF to go through with the bombings anyway, sacrificing thousands of civilians while gaining nothing but the potential deaths of a few replaceable terrorists.

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              it’s not a war crime to attack a military target that is using a civilian population as cover

              It absolutely 100% is.

              The military action has to use the principle of proportionality

              Which Israel doesn’t do either, not even close

              Attacking such a site would only be a war crime if there is no valid military target.

              Which we only have the word of a notoriously dishonest government that there always is

              Also, the current news is that Hamas is blocking evacuations from this region. So that moves it from soft human shields to forced human shields.

              You mean like when Israel told Palestinians to go somewhere and then bombed them as they complied?

              You can try all the whataboutism you’d like to excuse the atrocities of the apartheid regime but, apart from the fact that the atrocities of Hamas doesn’t justify any of those of Israel, most of the time the IDF have done the same thing (including for example using human shields) or something even worse.

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                  Aaand we’ve reached the point where you repeat bullshit I’ve already refuted and insist that two war crimes would make a justified military action. We’re done here, genocide apologist.