• mayoi@sh.itjust.works
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    Name one thing that doesn’t require outside skill. Literally nothing you know in your life you learned on your own.

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      I’m not saying you’re wrong, just what people intend to mean when they say unskilled labor.

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          I have a master’s degree, but I can honestly say working at Wendy’s took just as much skill as what I do now. “People” who use terms like “unskilled labor” are part of the problem. There’s no such thing as “unskilled labor.” I’m agreeing with you.

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            I can’t fathom cognitive dissonance of being able to say unskilled and implying it isn’t equivalent to $0

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              I can’t fathom

              Well, theory of mind is a skill.

              Fine. Maybe an analogy will help. If you say X = 2 and I say that it does not, does that mean I am saying it is equal to 3? You made an assertion, I reject your assertion, that doesn’t mean anything else. A does not imply B in this case.

              Unskilled labor does not mean it should be done for free. No one is saying that, except you. Because that strawman is able to defeat.

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                Work is activity involving mental or physical effort done in order to achieve a purpose or result. Something unskilled isn’t work. Not sure what’s so hard to understand.

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                    They actually have something of a point here. They’re essentially arguing unskilled work doesn’t exist. They’re saying all work is skilled work. They’re saying the very notion of unskilled is a fantasy used to excuse not paying for certain work. They even implied the opposite of what you claimed, by insulting people who use the term unskilled to justify unpaid work…

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                    Yes I just wrote this, everything that gets pay today is in fact more than unskilled. Go fuck yourself you retarded clown, you literally entertain me for free and don’t even see the irony in it.

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                    This guy’s account is 8 hours old with 100+ comments, and every single one that’s addressing a reply to something he said is a deflection.

                    He’s a troll teaching a masterclass on deflection.

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              Citation needed. Please tell me the name of the people, the date they invented the term, the justification they offered for the term, and private letters that indicate this conspiracy.

              Take as much time as you need to provide these four pieces of data that would back up your claim.

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                This is not a genuine ask. You just don’t want to acknowledge propaganda.

                No work is deserving of such scorn and disrespect. All work requires effort and should be recognised as such.

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                  Don’t tell me what my intentions are you are not a mind reader. And don’t imply something I didn’t say.

                  Now how are citations going?

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                    Do you really think all work doesn’t require skill? That there are jobs out there that are truly mindless?

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      Packing boxes, unless you mean “outside training” to include walking and talking

      It’s unskilled in terms that any moderately competent person can do the job and become proficient at it quickly

      My skilled job required tertiary education, plus about two years on the job for a person to become good at it