• awkwrrdd@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    I sure would like them to start prioritizing efficiency before performance/features in products like the watch. A two/three day Apple Watch battery would make me far more likely to use it for sleep tracking.

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      1 year ago

      Wait do Apple Watches not last 2-3 days?

      My old Samsung Gear S3 Frontier was rated for 3 days and often went 4-5 way back in 2016. I cannot imagine owning a smartwatch that lasted less than 3.

      • taxis-asocial@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        That depends on what you do. I can’t imagine that watched lasted that long while doing regular workouts

      • -Gh0st96-@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        They can last up until 3 days i think. My 7 series lasts me 2 days and a night before I need to charge it. (AOD off now because the battery has started to degrade)

        • SilasDG@alien.topB
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          1 year ago

          Because a watch that lasts 18 hours (apples rating after looking it up) means I cant sleep with it.

          Why do I need to justify wanting longer battery life when competitors have offered 2-3 times the life for 7 years?

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            1 year ago

            This is outrageous. It’s so easy to throw it on a charger while you shower. It would be great if the battery lasts longer but it’s insane to say you can’t sleep with it now.

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              1 year ago

              What a laughably bad excuse.

              How long are your showers? Mine are usually about 15 minutes.

              Per the US EPA the average shower is 8 Minutes

              Per Apple the watch takes 2.5 hours to charge to full. 1.5 for 80% or about .5% a minute for the first 90 minutes

              Even with my 15 minute showers I’d get a ~13% charge. That’s a little of 2 hours worth of battery. Idk about you but generally I need at minimum 6, and try to shoot for 8 hours of sleep.

              To get a solid 8 hours of life you would need a ~45% charge. So anyone who wants to charge this during a shower better be taking 50 minute showers at a minimum.

              I don’t think it’s outrageous to suggest a company compete with on something a basic as battery life when their competitors have proven it possible for 7 years…

              • FMCam20@alien.topB
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                1 year ago

                I mean I charged my Series 6 either in the hour before bed or would just let it charge while on my way to work in the car. So usually I averaged about 45 minutes to an hour without it on and charging a day. It usually never got back up to 100% but it stayed within about 85% to 30% everyday with those habits. I now have an Ultra 2 and only charge it for about 45 minutes to an hour every other day.

                While it would be great to having longer battery life like Polar or Garmin or Fitbit or other dedicated sports watches the battery life of the Apple Watch doesn’t prevent you from using it for sleep tracking (which from my use will at most take 10% of battery if you had a pretty restless night of sleep).

              • Apollo--User@alien.topB
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                1 year ago

                Dude. Charge it when you shower and charge it while you’re winding down before sleep. I literally do it daily. You’re claiming that what is totally easy and doable is impossible. Get a grip.

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                  1 year ago

                  what is totally easy and doable is impossible

                  Yeah I never said it was impossible. Don’t misrepresent my argument just because you can’t defend yours.

                  It’s of course possible to charge the watch, it’s just inconvenient to have to deal with multiple times a day. For 2.5 hours of not using it every day. You get less than a full days (24 hours) usage.

                  You’re making excuses for Apple not competing, and blaming the consumer for simply wanting a product that competes, and isn’t inconvenient.

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                    1 year ago

                    For 2.5 hours of not using it every day

                    I’ve been using an Apple Watch for several years now, and I have never drained one of them completely in that time. The routine that /u/Apollo—User suggested works great, and hardly takes the 2.5 hours you’ve claimed

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      1 year ago

      I wouldn’t mind if that extended to phones as well. I’d happily have a phone 3mm thicker if that meant double the battery capacity

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        1 year ago

        Do you really think adding just 3mm to the battery would do that?

        In general smart phones are not going to last much more than a day. That they last a day is good enough to stop battery panic.

        If a phone lasted 1 1/2 days, enough to convince you to not plug it in at night you would still have battery worry on day two.

    • hpstg@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      If you charge it while you’re having a shower, and don’t have the always on display, you can pretty much wear it all the time with all the monitoring bells and whistles on.

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      1 year ago

      I hope the band connector redesign and possible skipping of a year before much bigger updates in the Apple watch X/Ultra 3 lead to big increases in battery life

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        1 year ago

        I don’t see how redesigning the band connector will lead to improved battery life…

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          1 year ago

          In a small device like the watch, the attachment mechanism and all the structure needed for it takes substantial space where every millimeter is at a premium

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            1 year ago

            all the structure needed for it takes substantial space where every millimeter is at a premium

            The rumored magnetic system that the Apple Watch X is supposed to be using does not look like it will be saving much space at all, if any.

    • oldknave@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      I think they’re starting to with the ultra at least. Got an Ultra 2 last week, ran 15 miles today with always on display + cellular connection on and had 80% left after the run. Was really impressed. Hopefully that comes to the regular watches down the line.

    • goldengraaam@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Fast charge from 0% works in 75 minutes. How is that preventative? Charge the watch while you get ready/cook dinner/etc.

    • Gets_overly_excited@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      I have a series 7 and use it every night for tracking. I just plug it in about an hour before I go to sleep and then again for an hour in the morning when I’m getting ready. I wouldn’t mind it having a longer battery life, but I rarely find it running low

      • awkwrrdd@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        Yeah I think something like this would work for me as well. Just need to figure out the schedule. I’m currently throwing it on the charger at like 60% every night so surely it’d work

        • Gets_overly_excited@alien.topB
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          1 year ago

          I guess. It seems pretty easy to me. I have the charger on my bedside table. I slip watch on there as I go to brush my teeth, etc, I read a book or watch TV for an hour and slip it on and go to bed. In the morning, I turn off the alarm and connect it to the charger. I just put my watch on last before leaving the house. It’s like 15 seconds of “work” and we already do routines in the morning and evening. If the battery lasted three days, I guess that would be cool but I’d have to remember every 3 days to charge it. Doesn’t seem that different honestly.

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      1 year ago

      My ultra 2 lasts for 3 days just fine. You just have to disable always on. Day is almost over and I did a 35min workout and it’s at 88% right now.