Given the current state of partisan polarization, it’s unlikely Biden can get majority job approval next year even with the most fortunate set of circumstances. But the good news for him is that he probably doesn’t have to. Job-approval ratings are crucial indicators in a normal presidential reelection cycle that is basically a referendum on the incumbent’s record. Assuming Trump is the Republican nominee, 2024 will not be a normal reelection cycle for three reasons.

  • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    Not like expecting them to fall in line would’ve done anything if you’re losing a hefty chunk of the moderates.

    So “vote blue no matter who” was a crock of fucking bullshit put forth by hypocrites who never intend to follow their own advice if a candidate isn’t their very first choice.

      • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Then you’re either not paying any attention whatsoever, or you’re gaslighting me. Either way, there is no reason to continue this conversation.

        • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          Why would those who are closest to switching or especially those who are undecided be hardcore about always voting Democrats…?

            • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              I mean I’d really like to hear your reasoning behind your thinking, so that’s a reason but if you don’t feel like it then sure, probably better to end it here.

              • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                1 year ago

                I mean I’d really like to hear your reasoning behind your thinking

                You have already. You responded by lying and saying that centrists never espoused the “no matter who” rhetoric. Since all you’re going to do is lie and gaslight, you can find someone else to do that to.

                • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  1 year ago

                  I’m really bewildered with the logic behind your thinking. By “centrists” do you mean the right-wing of Democrats, the middle ground between parties and the left-wing of Republicans (the political central position as it is in the US) or something else? I could believe the ones solidly in the middle of their own party could be diehards, but saying that especially people who are switching parties are also diehards makes no sense. You’d expect that from those who are committed to one party, not those who are undecided or uncommitted.

                  I feel like there’s some major miscommunication somewhere. I wish you’d calm down and we could just go through what we mean so we could figure out this situation.

                  For clarification, I drew a magnificent pic (well, only the circle). The ones I’m talking about are within the green circle. Are you talking about some other group?

                  • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    1 year ago

                    Fine. I’ll pretend for one more comment that you’re not arguing in bad faith.

                    The people I’m talking about are the Democratic Party’s centrist contingent. The ones who shriek “vote blue no matter who” when they’re ordering everyone to their left to vote for the candidate they wanted from the start, but shriek “party unity my ass” even louder when anyone to the left of their very first choice gets nominated.

                    In 2008, the party’s centrists literally formed a pac to fundraise for McCain/Palin because they couldn’t stand the idea of anyone other than Clinton being the nominee. Then 2016, when they blamed everyone who said anything even remotely negative about Clinton for the loss she earned, regardless of how they voted. Then 2020, the year of “no matter who” from the same wing of the party who worked so hard to legitimize Sarah Goddamned Palin.

                    If centrists don’t get their way about everything at all times, they directly work to elect Republicans. And then scream at everyone to their left for daring to breathe a word of criticism. It’s disgusting hypocrisy.

                    Now pretend that you still don’t know who I’m talking about and lie to me some more.