recent: tears of the kingdom, or as i like to call it botw 1.2, its the same thing all over again just with one or two added gimicks, the open world is dead, npcs are boring and nintendo just got away with it like that

not so recent: i cant stand persona 5, joker and his entourage are annoying teenagers, the time management is a horrible gameplay addition and the artstyle is just a visual overstimulation

with that being said,~~ plz dont kill me~~

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    I’ll probably get roasted for this but… Pokemon. It just seems like endless copy/paste and might be one of the laziest game franchises I’ve ever seen. I’ve really tried to get into them. I was there when the Pokemon cartoon started, I saw it rise to the phenomenon it is today, but damn if it isn’t the most boring grindfest ever.

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      it doesnt just feel like copy paste, thats quite literally what they are doing, there is plenty of evidence online to show that they do but hey, if you can make whatever low effort thing you want and people still buy it why bother trying?

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        There’s no problem with copy/paste, games do that all the time (look at portal, most of that game is reused half life 2 assets). I think the problem is that they’re just not doing anything interesting with the games. If the games were good it shouldn’t matter if the Pikachu model is reused or made from scratch.

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          Sure but they also straight up lied about making fancy new assets for switch while they just literally copied and pasted from 3ds That lie, I find not okay

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      I do agree that it’s the same thing recycled over and over.

      If anyone does want to play them again, I highly recommend emulating them and accelerating the emulation to 2.5 or 3x speed. Makes it much more tolerable.

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      They get away with the copy-paste because the combat system is fundamentally extremely solid.

      The good thing about this is that programming-savvy fans have been creating free fan-games based on the formula for the last decade or so. As with any fan-made content the quality is extremely variable, but I have found some of the newer releases to be genuinely good games, better than anything GameFreak has put out in the last 20 years. Pokémon Unbound is a personal favorite - if you enjoy the fundamentals of the Pokémon games but feel the lack of creativity and puzzle-solving in the official releases I would suggest giving them a look.

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      The pokemon fan games have been way more inventive than the mainline games for a while now. I just recently have been getting into pokemon infinite fusion and it’s FANTASTIC

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        I so badly want to play infinite fusion but I cant seem to get it to work, it crashes everywhere I’ve tried to play :(

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    I still can’t make it through any of The Witcher games. Smooth and satisfying gameplay is super important for me to enjoy a game, and The Witcher has always felt slow, clunky, unintuitive, and super menu-heavy. I’m sure the story is great! But I just can’t get past its gameplay.

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    Any game that has daily login bonuses or a bonus for playing every day. Animal crossing pocket or whatever it is. Pokémon go. A bunch of afk phone games. A bunch of gacha games. It just feels so shallow to me. Like, I’m not being manipulated to play something, I just end up feeling so guilty to lose a streak I’d rather delete the game.

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      While not a daily login bonus, the weekly and monthly tasklist of Forza Horizon 5 killed the game for me. It triggered some sort of fomo and I would rush in every week to grind the new tasks/events. That burned me out very fast, so I could not enjoy the rest of the game.

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      I think this CAN work if you naturally enjoy the game, but don’t want to make decisions about your game plan when you boot up.

      I like Deep Rock Galactic. When given 15 mission options, I get choice paralysis, so it’s nice to have dailies/assignments that at least push me into a particular one just to get started.

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    This will be an extremely hot take for some: Almost all recent online games are complete garbage that solely exist to make profit and create addicted user bases and they hurt what videogames truly are, a revolutionary and interactive form of art.

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      This is why I can basically only play old games or indies. Games shouldn’t feel like work or require me to pay tons of money. I play games to have fun, which I guess is a radical idea now.

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        games shouldn’t feel like work

        Oh, boy. Let me tell you about Eve Online, aka, Excel Spreadsheet Simulator. You would LOVE that game! lol

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        I also mainly just post old games and indies, too. Modern games for the most part are pretty garbage due to the way they are designed to take all your money.

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          I have liked a lot of indies lately as well, but the have been a ton of good AAA games recently, for me at least. Elden Ring, TotK, Star Wars Jedi Survivor, Hogwarts Legacy, God of War Ragnarok, to name a few.

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      Potentially worded a bit abrasively but…kinda yeah. They rely so heavily on fomo, gacha, and other skinner box tricks to keep you playing other than FUN. Just remember what happened to Titanfall 2: "ohhh it was SO FUN it just didn’t have the events and grinding and stuff I wanted >:( "

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    Didn’t play Skyrim at the time and the two times I’ve tried to get into It didn’t really click for me. I understand why people like It, may give another try sometime

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    Didn’t see anyone else mention it, so I’ll say MMOs. Pretty much all of them. WoW, FFXIV, Guild Wars 2, Star Wars one (can’t remember the name). I really like the idea of MMOs, having a huge shared world that feels alive, tons of lore, epic quests, but I just find the gameplay loop so boring. They just feel like endless busywork to me.

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      The content and world in MMOs feels superficial. I much prefer a tightly constructed narrative with deep, meaningful character development. The Last Of Us is a great example of this.

    • This may just be old man nostalgia talking, but at least part of that spark feels like its gone because the genre became too popular and information flowed too freely.

      One of the things I distinctly remember about older MMOs, especially Pre-WoW ones, is how so much information was basically just passed on from player to player. You’d join a guild, because the guild forums are where you could post maps and strategies and the like. But your guild forums were also mostly just private to you, so useful stuff could take a long time to leak out.

      With the rise of wikis and big, well connected social communities, a lot of the exploration element of the games is just theme park rides and the mechanical experimentation gets analyzed to death in the first few days because of how collaborative everyone is instead of everyone being stuck in smaller groups with non-perfect info.

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    Red Dead Redemption 2. Everyone goes on about how awesome it is, but I just found the story and gameplay really slow and dull.

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    The Witcher 3.

    It just feels so generic and suffers from one of the things I hate the most about rpgs. Endless sidequests that have nothing to do with the main quest.

    Cyberpunk 2077. The first part was really enjoyable. Then you get to the open world part and it suffers from the same issue as the Witcher above and also has fiddly levelling up/skill tree. Also it’s overwhelming. You’re on a mission. The phone calls. Sone rando wants you for a job. Start job. The phone calls. There’s an out of control ai taxi…repeat. Just too much information at once and mostly for stuff unrelated to the fact your character has a very personal and important mission.

    Survival/Builder games I find incredibly boring.

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    I’ll probably take some flak for my answers, but here I go!

    Undertale

    Maybe I would’ve loved it if I had got to the game before the fandom madness got to me. But to be fair, it looks like it’s visually designed to tap into that 80’s nostalgia, which would’ve bore me anyway.

    Destiny 2

    I used to enjoy that game (and Destiny). Played it way more than I’d like to admit. But as my anxiety got worse, the more I abhorred the way they force you into matchmaking for PvE content, then give you all kinds of reasons why you have to do those PvE content where you’re forced to play with random players. Then there’s the changes Bungie had made that made the game more and more hostile to me on a mechanics level. Lately, it also feels like they’re treating Destiny 2 as a money-printing machine.

    Diablo 4

    Because Blizzard. There was a whole rant but I don’t want to make anyone uncomfortable. I simply will not give Blizzard any money moving forward.

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      Diablo 4

      Me: what? Who doesn’t like Diablo? I love the grind, the builds, classes, etc. What’s this dude getting at?

      Because Blizzard

      Me: ooohhh yeah. That’s more than enough reason.

      • I hate Diablo!

        It’s not that Diablo does anything wrong, it’s just that the gameplay loop is very much not for me me. All of my experience playing Diablo and its clones has been, “play the campaign with gear that’s underwhelming 20 minutes after you get it so you can never make a real build until you get to endgame, then grind endgame maps that make you zoom through trash for 20 minutes so that you can fight a boss, get no good drops, and do it again. Repeat this process every time you want to roll a new character.”

        I don’t think any Diablo player would disagree with this very much, even. It’s just that y’all find it fun and I don’t.

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          That’s… pretty accurate, ngl. Lol. I’ve played POE, GD, LE, D2R and that’s 0retty much how it is. The campaign is basically a huge tutorial.

          Still, it’s fun for me to try new builds. And the feeling when you get a good legendary/unique that’s perfect for you character is pretty nice. But yes, it can get tiring. I’m taking a break from arpg’s rn.

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      See, with undertale, the first thing I saw on it was “don’t look at anything undertale related AT ALL until you completely finish the game”. That made the experience way better for me. I likely would’ve given up if not for that since the community got a bit wild and that carrot-on-a-string of “something interesting is going to happen that people are trying to prevent spoilers for”

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      As far as Undertale goes at least even if maybe the design kind of looks like it’s designed to tap into 80’s nostalgia I really don’t get the impression that’s the main appeal for most people. The fandom thing is definitely true though, I’m glad I was young and chronically offline enough not to see any of that before I’d played the game through in its entirety

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    Honestly, Stardew Valley for me. I’ve tried it a couple times and it just didn’t work for me. I wanted to like it, and I like the idea of it, but in practice, I hated the time management aspect and not being able to just run around and do as much as I wanted in a day (I haven’t played on PC with mods; I know there’s at least one or two that let you change that). I also hated the fishing. 🙃

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      As someone who loves stardew (I have 1000+ hours in it) I can see what you mean. I hope you’ll find mods you like, but maybe it’s just better to try other games like sun haven? Never played it myself but I read it eliminates exactly this time managing thing stardew has. And yeah, the fishing is hard. I heard “The fishing in Stardew is the souls-like in farming Minigames” a lot and I think it’s true.

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      The game is kind of a chore at first when you have to manually water your crops. Once you’re more established and have sprinklers you can really put a lot of the farming on autopilot.

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      I can see why the time mechanic is there but I agree it can be a negative point to the game. You’re not the first person I see complaining about this.

      I liked the game enough but needing to get a rare fish that can only be fished at certain season, certain time period and only when raining to complete quests was annoying, as was needing to get out of the dungeon while I was having a good run because of time. It would have been better if there were alternative means to get the fish, like buying from the fisherman, and the option to camp in the dungeon.

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      I actually feel like Harvest Moon was more chill and relaxing. Stardew Valley stressed me out because I felt like if I didn’t manage my time properly I was doing it wrong which felt weird given the game’s message about leaving the demanding stressful work life of the city behind.

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    Terraria - I just don’t understand what you’re meant to do or why it’s interesting.

    I actually really like TOTK though, it’s a big improvement over BOTW with a slightly more alive world and the vehicle creation stuff is fun.

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      I recently tried to play MH: Rise and bounced so hard. They really need to consider how to ease new players to the genre into the game. The first hour included so much exposition, paragraphs of text, and detailed menu tutorials before I really had any context for why anything is important. I know that the games have always been this way, but it felt lazy.

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        Got through all of that to play with a friend cuz we played the beta together and thought it would be promising

        We were so disappointed we spent less time playing together than we did on the initial text/cutscenes.

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        I feel like World unintentionally offered a better experience with the Defender set. I guess it was brought in to help people “fast forward” to Iceborne content. But I was appreciating it even just for playing through the main game. I would use Defender weapons, with no Defender armor, dealing far more damage than I should have at that point in the game, and monsters still took a good 15 minutes; about as long as I would ever want a fight like that to take without getting seriously bored.

        If I ever return to try Rise, I’m a bit worried that it will feel grueling.

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    I guess I’ll take the hit for this one. Dark Souls.

    The combat can be really fun and I had a great time fighting the bosses but the slow, careful crawl between boss fights is just so dull to me that it’s not worth it.

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      I agree on that one, but for a slightly different reason. For me it was the camera. For whatever reason I had the feeling I fought the camera more than I fought the enemies. And that kills the fun for me.

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      Came here to say this, from software is clearly really talented at level design and art direction, but I cannot for the life of me find enjoyment in those games because of the overall gameplay experience just being boring.

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      Sekiro and Elden Ring have pretty much ruined any desire I had to play Dark Souls. Sekiro, in particular, seems like a distillation of everything I loved about DS gameplay with zero bloat, and still managed to take me 40 hours to beat.

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    Destiny 2! The game is total trash. The combat is so fucking boring, its just nothing but bullet sponge bosses with simple ass mechanics.

    I know that lots of people love it but man I do not understand lol

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      I’ve played Destiny 2 religiously throughout Warmind up to Shadowkeep, but after giving it some thought, I feel like I agree with you. Most of the fun I’ve had in that game was because I played it with my friends. We were happy messing around and shooting at each other’s backsides and maybe occasionally getting something done in the scarce 3-player content there was, kind of like a glorified hangout space, but if I had to play it by myself? I don’t know, chief. I do love the feel of the guns and the lore (up to a certain point), but I wouldn’t call the game itself a good time.

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    Borderlands: I mean the combat is fine and all, but the story is super weak. What is my incentive to keep playing? Just to click on more heads? There are better games for that (Doom, Quake, etc)