https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html

Many of us do not trust Facebook and anything it is associated with or swallows up.

EDIT:

https://techcrunch.com/2023/07/05/adam-mosseri-says-metas-threads-app-wont-have-activitypub-support-at-launch/

"Instagram head Adam Mosseri said "

““Soon, you’ll be able to follow and interact with people on other fediverse platforms, such as Mastodon. They can also find people on Threads using full usernames, such as @mosseri@threads.net.””

“We’re committed to building support for ActivityPub, the protocol behind Mastodon, into this app. We weren’t able to finish it for launch given a number of complications that come along with a decentralized network, but it’s coming,” he said.

“If you’re wondering why this matters, here’s a reason: you may one day end up leaving Threads, or, hopefully not, end up de-platformed. If that ever happens, you should be able to take your audience with you to another server. Being open can enable that.”

  • Skaryon@lemmy.worldEnglish
    13·
    1 year ago

    Agreed. I am already blocking communities I don’t care for all the time but sometimes it would be much easier to be able to just block their entire instance (because the whole instance circles around the same type of content). I won’t be able to find one single instance the federated with just the right others for my taste so let me just filter myself.

    • pjhenry1216@kbin.social
      7·
      1 year ago

      Blocking and defederation are not the same, just to note. If you block someone, I’m pretty sure they can still see your stuff. You just can’t see them. Defederation would actually stop them from seeing your stuff.

      • Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz
        5·
        1 year ago

        Defederating doesn’t stop Facebook from seeing your posts. It stops you from seeing theirs. Everyone seems to have this the wrong way around

      • jennwiththesea@lemmy.world
        5·
        1 year ago

        I don’t think that’s true, because we a world user I can still see things posted on Beehaw. They just can’t see anything I reply with. So, if our instance defederates from threads, we won’t be able to see their posts but they will see ours.

        • pjhenry1216@kbin.social
          2·
          1 year ago

          That’s the behavior I mentioned in a separate comment that I suggested to be used. And it’s not defederation. Defederation means neither see each other (think TruthSocial not federation with anyone). It’s sort of like half defederated and I think it’s the best scenario if folks want Fediverse to withstand Threads. If Threads users never see somewhere else, they’ll just think Threads is all there is. Kind of how so many people think anything they find here is solely Lemmy. Mindshare is important and exposure is important. If Threads doesn’t moderate well enough, then full defederation may be necessary but it shouldn’t be done based on silly preconceptions and prejudices. See how it goes first.

      • Skaryon@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        1 year ago

        I’m fine with that. I just don’t want to see certain content, that’s all. Maybe blocking is also the wrong word. Hide it from my feed is what I want.

    • vaguerant@kbin.social
      3·
      1 year ago

      You can’t have an instance that runs on your personal set of preference unless you run your own. Somebody else went to the effort of buying a domain, hosting, handling moderation on their own time, and everything else that comes with running a fediverse instance, so if you sign up to that instance, you get to deal with their rules.

      Even if you found an instance which suits your desires–which ultimately amounts to being essentially unmoderated, since you don’t trust an admin to be in charge of moderation–you’d find it getting defederated by other instances because bad stuff happens in unmoderated spaces. What you’re asking for, an instance which can access everything at all times, is fundamentally incompatible with the nature of the fediverse. I’m not being glib, but if that’s what you’re here for, you’re in the wrong place.

        • vaguerant@kbin.social
          2·
          1 year ago

          It sounds like you are, because if you want a place where you alone are in charge of what content gets blocked, what you really mean is a place where nothing gets blocked by the admins, so that it’s all up to you. If you want to be in charge of everything you see, all of that content must be allowed to reach the instance, i.e. it must be unmoderated and federated with everything.

          • Skaryon@lemmy.worldEnglish
            5·
            1 year ago

            I don’t get how you arrive at that conclusion. All I want is for me myself to not see certainty content I don’t care for. Here’s an example: there’s an nsfw instance that is federated with my instance. I don’t mind that at all. Great content for many people I am sure. But it seems to mostly be communities for straight men (or does into female bodies). I’m a gay man. I really don’t care for tits of any size. So I keep blocking these communities when their posts show up. Would be much easier if I could just block/hide the whole instance from my own feed.

            • vaguerant@kbin.social
              2·
              1 year ago

              OK, I follow you now, sorry for misunderstanding. When you said “I won’t be able to find one single instance the federated with just the right others for my taste so let me just filter myself,” I took that to mean you wanted to start from scratch, rather than starting from a baseline moderation level you agree with plus your own filtering on top of that. That, I can certainly agree with (especially as a kbin user, where I have that capacity). I imagine it will come to Lemmy as well at some future date.