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Florida’s state athletic board fined a high school and put it on probation Tuesday after a transgender student played on the girls volleyball team, a violation of a controversial law enacted by Gov. Ron DeSantis and the Legislature.
The Florida High School Athletic Association fined Monarch High $16,500, ordered the principal and athletic director to attend rules seminars and placed the suburban Fort Lauderdale school on probation for 11 months, meaning further violations could lead to increased punishments. The association also barred the girl from participating in boys sports for 11 months.
The 2021 law, which supporters named “The Fairness in Women’s Sports Act,” bars transgender girls and women from playing on public school teams intended for student athletes identified as girls at birth.
The student, a 10th grader who played in 33 matches over the last two seasons, was removed from the team last month after the Broward County School District was notified by an anonymous tipster about her participation. Her removal led hundreds of Monarch students to walk out of class two weeks ago in protest.
It’s an antiquated tradition, but the field of athletics isn’t exactly known for embracing progress and change
No, it is typically the case that “men’s sports” are actually open to anyone able to compete, and women’s sports are just for women. There are very few sports where a professional female athlete can compete alongside professional male athletes.
Thanks for demonstrating, you sound just like the transphobes
Hmmm, I didn’t say anything transphobic, though. Just because you don’t like what I said doesn’t make me a bigot. Grow up.
I used to actually try to reason with people like you, with citations and ethical appeals – the whole nine yards.
But you know what I learned? You can’t logic someone out of a position they didn’t logic themselves into.
No matter what anyone says, you lot really want to use those skull calipers, and ain’t no data, logic, or ethics going to stop you.
And yes, it’s absolutely bigoted and sexist to imply that activities should be segregated by gender. That’s objectively a bigoted opinion. You just don’t want to admit it, because it would mean you choose to be a bad person.
Again, you won’t let something like an objective fact stop you, so far be it from me to waste my time with people like you.
Again, nothing I wrote is transphobic. You just don’t understand how sports work. The only manner in which sports are segregated is women’s sports. Any woman can play for the NBA if they are good enough. Any woman can play for MLB.
Women get their own leagues in sports because they wouldn’t be present in professional sports at all if it was all a strict meritocracy.
This article of running explains a lot of the factors. I chose running specifically because it’s a non impact sport where, presumably, the gender size differences would play less of a role.
Mens larger hearts let them oxygenate their blood faster, and their blood can hold 11% more oxygen. Recovery from injuries is quicker as well. A lot of these factors are a result of hormones present throughout their lives.
These are facts. What you make of those facts requires logic.
Now, reread what I wrote and cite back to me a single reference I made to trans people.
The post I responded to was stating that there is no reason to split sports by genders. I can tell you that without a doubt, there is a reason to provide women’s sport leagues, and that reason is to prevent their wholesale exclusion from the competitive sport environment.
Depending on when a person transitions in their life, there could be gigantic physical advantages reaped. I don’t think it’s my role as a man to declare where the line of acceptable advantages is in women’s leagues.
I’m not reading that
I’m happy for you, though
or sorry that happened
Why even be on a social network?
Edit: Problem solved, thanks!
Don’t worry about it. You’re 100% right and they know it. They read your rebuttal and realized that they couldn’t counter so instead just settled for “Ya. Not reading that.”
Even the NHL, not exactly known for being forward thinking or progressive, allows women to participate. In fact a woman has played a professional game in the NHL.
It’s really not a bigoted position; it’s about protecting women.
I should say, for some people I’m sure it’s about bigotry. But personally I think it’s an important feminist issue, since biological women could be playing alongside people that have gone through male puberty. That has the potential to be unreasonably dangerous as well as unfair to those who’ve been through female puberty, on average.
Remember this is about demographic averages, and it remains true that some/many biological women could annihilate some/many biological men in many physical endeavours. It’s that bimodal distribution again. Not anymore bigoted than, unfortunately, reality is.
Ew, a TERF. Blocked and reported.