“We’re gonna need a bigger jail” 🤦

  • The Pantser@lemmy.world
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    Who gets jailed? If huge corporations can’t go to jail for the evil shit they do “even though they are people” then a hospital protecting actual people won’t go to jail either.

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      Nah, they are going after the people in the hospital that deny the order, not the hospital itself. The people in Seattle will be fine as long as they stay in Washington and their state and the feds refuse to extradite, but anyone charged may have trouble when traveling to other states and will be unable to travel through Texas without legitimate fear of detention.

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        will be unable to travel through Texas without legitimate fear of detention

        so… a standard risk for anyone living in Texas, or traveling through Texas

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          I get your point, but everyone living in or traveling through Texas do not have open criminal warrants, which is what these Seattle hospital workers will have if they don’t comply, and we shouldn’t downplay the litany of problems that come with arrest warrants.

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            I also get your point, but it’s a relatively minor distinction in Texas.

            I know a few people that work a Renaissance Faire there who have gotten pulled over multiple times and almost went to jail because they were doing the speed limit in the slow lane, it was considered suspicious, and they looked like hippies.

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              As someone who has lived in Texas with warrants and without, I can confirm that it’s not a minor distinction. Luckily I haven’t had to return to Texas in years, but if I do, I will make sure I don’t have any open warrants before doing so. Texas cops will fuck your life up for unpaid traffic fines like you robbed a bank just because they can.

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                  Yeah, no question they profile heavily in Texas. I’ve been pulled over for the same, but they get pretty trigger happy once they learn you have any sort of warrant, so your risk of death goes up exponentially when stopped with warrants. I had a cop come running at my drivers side door with his gun drawn as soon as he ran my plates and saw my warrant for unpaid speeding ticket.

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                    Yep, there’s a reason why many of them don’t work that faire any more. A few of them had their vehicles fully searched, multiple times, because they looked like the type who would have contraband. Those who still dare basically pray all the way to the fairgrounds, then don’t leave until it’s time to escape the state. Only the most straight-laced looking people with the most normal looking cars go out for community grocery runs and such.

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          If you draw a straight line from Seattle to Texas, don’t you end up in the ocean? Can’t see many transits like that.

          (Geography from memory, not gonna check)

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        The people in Seattle will be fine as long as they stay in Washington and their state and the feds refuse to extradite, but anyone charged may have trouble when traveling to other states and will be unable to travel through Texas without legitimate fear of detention.

        If Texas does somehow arrest a Washington state resident that works at a hospital that denied this request when that worker was visiting Texas, and that was upheld but state and federal courts, this could backfire in a BIG way on Texas. Other states could put out warrants on Texans, like Paxton or any other Texan involved in executing this law, in every other state in the nation.

        Instead of others haven’t to worry about stepping foot in Texas, Texans would have to worry about ever stepping foot out of Texas.

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          This is exactly where we are headed and I’ve been calling this for at least 5 or 6 years now. The first shots of the next civil war will be a Republican president sending feds into California to arrest a doctor, and Californians standing their ground.

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        Pax-turd needs to realize that if he’s going to play the “state’s rights” angle, that means other states have rights, too, and Texas has no dominion over Washington state. I personally have mixed thoughts about elevating states over federal law… we’re the UNITED States, not fifty sovereign countries.

        Also, shouldn’t this dingus be in jail? I thought he was charged with corruption so egregious even the nee-haw state couldn’t ignore it.

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          Also, shouldn’t this dingus be in jail? I thought he was charged with corruption so egregious even the nee-haw state couldn’t ignore it.

          The felony trial isnt until april. Eariler this year the state moved to hold an impeachment trial, but he paid off the almost equally corrupt, “Seniors should sacrifice their lives for the economy” Lt. Gov, and then…everyone changed their minds and he got acquitted.

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        An obvious issue here is that they could try to get someone picked up and extradited. Even if progressive states like Washington don’t have any of that you have to worry about other states when you drive through or have a layover.

        Consider the midline of the country you have North Dakota, South Dakota Nebraska Kansas Oklahoma or Texas